Is Mi35 useful at all in CSAR? not sure if a Winch and other equipment can be installed

Didn’t see any threads on it, so here:
http://www.ibtimes.com/china-iran-weigh-1-billion-deal-swap-chengdu-j-10-fighter-jets-major-oil-field-2042356

Personally I don’t think it’s a very good idea, air power is the West’s forte.
It’s not a field where Iran can hope to pose any threat, between the F-22 dominating the skies and cruise missiles/UCAVs bombing any air fields with impunity, the J-10s would quickly run out of places (from) where they can operate.
For day to day air force tasks (hunting UAVs), Iran’s aging aircraft inventory still does the trick.

Iran would be better off to invest in non-traditional forms of warfare, like cyberwarfare and scuds, that can do a lot more damage to the West and any ships trying to force open a naval blockade.
And yes nukes. No nuclear capable country has ever been invaded in all-out war.

Very true.

The only reason for such a buy would be to ensure that ONLY US could undertake the mission you mentioned above.

You forgot the MiG 1.44 and Sukhoi S.37 which both have their origins in mid 80s.

Certainly true but it’s fair to say that the overall technological level of Russian aerospace industry remained ahead or at least on par with traditional European designing countries like France, UK, Germany or Italy.

If you follow the development of both Su-27 and Typhoon families, then they are actually not that far apart.

first flights:

Su-27: May 1977
EAP: Aug 1986
Su-27M: Jun 1988
Su-30: Dec 1989
Typhoon: Mar 1994
Su-35S: Feb 2008

If I were to choose between a Tranche 2 Typhoon with M-Scan radar and a “souped up 70s” fighter Su-35S with Irbis PESA, I personally would not hesitate to go for the Russian one. So much for the “one of the most advanced operational fighter in West”..

We are discussing Su30 v Typhoon here. However there are legacy Western fighters (F-15 SA, F-15 K) which have been “souped up” (AESA, AIM9X, AIM-120 C7 etc) and would prove to be more than a match for Su35.

The very fact that he mentioned a “decade and a half” where there was zero R&D in Russia shows what sort of poster you are dealing with her Nic.

One wonders where the T-50 came from in such a situation 😀 .

Yes squadrons of T-50s flying around indicated the a full scale research effort since the 80s! You wont loose anything by doing a bit of research.

https://www.rusi.org/downloads/assets/Russian_Defence_Industrial_Base_RDS_Summer_09.pdf

“Russia’s defence industrial base entered the current decade largely unreformed from the Soviet era. Boris Alyoshin, president of the Russian League of Assistance to Defence Enterprises in 2007, warned that “the entire work pattern of the Russian defence industry [was] obsolete”. The sector was faced with out-dated management practices; a fractured industrial base; corporate structures that discouraged individual initiative; and insufficient investment in production facilities.”

“The cost of insufficient research and development (R&D) expenditure in the 1990s and early 2000s was keenly felt, while an uncoordinated approach to foreign sales led to a degree of cannibalisation in the international marketplace”

“Russia has also taken steps to overcome the technology gap that opened as a result of inadequate research and development (R&D) and the loss of skilled personnel to other countries during the downturn of the 1990s”

This is not the right thread for this discussion. MKI is very impressive in the environment it operates in (Indo Pak scenario) but the assertion that a souped up version of a fighter designed by Soviets in 70s can beat one of the most advanced operational fighter in West in every engagement is just laughable.

Every time soviet/russian fighters have come face to face with western fighters in a real situation the outcome has been very one sided. I seriously doubt russians can match west when it comes to aircraft technology. This disparity has only increased given the lost decade and a half when there was zero R&D in Russia.

There is nothing “battle winning” about any current russian design that would be a problem for a comparable western fighter.

TVC has already been discarded for SU35 and the basic design is from 70s.

Can i go out on a limb and call this irrefuteable evidence.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1196711/drone-shot-down-by-pak-army-was-flown-from-india-says-ispr

Then please do point us to Chinese drones in service in India with any of the services, paramilitary or police forces.

Not just any Chinese drone, but the same which was shot down with propeller guards attached.

http://photogallery.navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/drone-helps-police-scan-trilokpuri-locality/articleshow/44981283.cms

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/09/asia/india-police-drones/