BA274 is now doing circles of the West Ireland coast.
Must be nice for the passengers not knowing where they are going to land,NOT

Looks like BA17V is doing circles over the Isle of Man

1) Europe airport interactive airport information map:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704448304575195400233188306.html#articleTabs%3Dinteractive

2) Volcano ash moving to North America update:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/19/iceland-volcano-ash-coming-america/

Will be intresting to see how they handle this now.

Can anyone tell me the details of flight number “CFLOX” which was just over the North region of England and “KLM31”,

and reg code C-GTDG- which is reported as flight number “CGTDG” as per RadarVirtuel.

Cheers

Rick

C-FLOX is a 757
C-GTDG is a 320
Both from Prestwick to Manchester flew it VFR I have been told.

Seems I may be wrong , have just read that are not going to MANCHESTER

UK airports closed till at least 1am.
Scottish airports are open.
CRAZY

Let’s leave Brown out of it – for now. There must be some knowledgable members here who can shed some light on the increasingly anomalous situation. There have now been a great many aircraft flying in France, Spain, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Germany at every flight level and no emergencies as far as we know. So, something just does not add up. Is some authority somewhere really putting thousands of travellers at risk? No, of course they are not.

I can,t for one minute beleve that is is all for nothing.
Somebody must be giving somebody this info where do they get it from? Who gives NATS there info ?
To be honest after being a bit doubting of Andy most of the day , I am starting to come round to his point of view,:eek:

What data do the UK Met Office base THEIR data on – seems like its already been discredited as an inaccurate model.

None the less, it explains why some European airlines are flying and yet the UK isn’t. It also makes it understandable why UK airlines are pressuring to be allowed to fly again.

If Eurocontrol are proven right (and I sincerely hope they are), then as I said before heads need to roll at the Met Office and at NATS.

Andy

If NATS and the met office are so wrong in there advise , what about the other contries that are also closed , who is giving them there info.
They cant all be wrong and there has been damage to F-16’S from 2 European Air Forces.
I will agree with you that something is wrong with a lot of airlines flying Europe and not us.
You have not said yet has to why Brown and hos cronies want to keep the airlines grounded , if he wanted to be the big hero before the election would he not make NATS open the air space and take all the credit.
Or is it that he does not want to make that choice for fear of something happening

NATS have closed airspace (ie. all class A which includes the London TMA and airways, and airspace around the airports they control). Its already been demonstrated that some sectors of the aviation industry can operate quite safely and legally, despite the ash. But NATS seems to be taking a rather intransigent “airspace closed” approach. As I’ve said several times already, IMHO NATS should offer services inside controlled airspace to any operator that can legally and safely operate – and those decisions should be based around the ANO and in the airline’s case around their Ops Manual approved by the CAA. There doesn’t seem to be any reason why airways at low levels should be closed (e.g. below 10000′ or whatever is the lowest level ash has been detected), nor airports at which NATS provides ATC coverage.

I now have half a mind this approach is actually the doing of those two idiots in government Brown and Adonis, applying pressure to NATS to close airspace as a CYA action. Just like the rediculous action of sending the Navy ships in to Channel ports (when the reality is the cross channel ferry operators are saying people can more or less take cars onto the next ferry), I wonder if its becoming a goverment “we’re doing everything we can to keep people safe” smoke and mirrors type thing, whilst in reality they’re fiddling whilst Rome (aka the airlines) burns.

Andy

Sorry but how can you blame the goverment , yes Brown and his cronies are the world biggest idiots but to blame them for this is just daft :confused:.
You are going to have to explaine to me , why it would be in the intrest of Brown and Co to keep the airlines grounded and what is CYA action?