I believe a veiwng area will be set up on production of a spotters card after beong vetted. Nice one!

OK so shout me down if you want , but I dont want to be vetted just so that I can spot planes.
I have more than enough ID to produce and have to be vetted for my job , so why should I have to be for my hobby.
What about the familys that want to go to the airport for a couple of hours in the sun on a weekend.
Can you imagine what would happen at the AVP at Manchester if everybody had to be vetted before they could get in.
Sorry I think this is a silly idea.

Appears to be a AMS-AMS flight

It is Route: From (CUR) Curacao, AN to (AMS) Amsterdam, NL
Duration:

Paul, I think it is setting a rather unfortunate precident to allow an air traffic control service to decide what traffic it will allow into the airspace it manages and when. I believe it is up to the ANO and an AOC’s ops manual to determine whether a flight is safe and legal. If the operation is legal (as determined by the ANO and AOC holder’s ops manual), then an air traffic control service should provide a service to the operation.

As an example: Yesterday, DHL Air UK flew a 757F from EMA to Lasham VFR in glass-G at around 4000 feet. DHL had to buy VFR charts from the local flying club! The flight couldn’t operate at higher levels because NATS has closed the airways. Does anyone think a 757 (even a bright yellow one) whizzing around at low level in the open FIR with no radar cover is a good idea – it was legal, but not particularly clever as far as other VFR traffic was concerned, and arguably less safe than it would have been just a few thousand feet higher in the Daventry airways sector under radar cover from NATS.

Andy

LOL that a cracking idea , I would love to see 75’s and 747;s flying that low , but in all fairness its not going to happen.
Sorry to push the point but would it not be wrong to allow flying when the condidtion could and I stress could be classed has dangerous.
But saying that something needs to be done , the airlines cant keep afloat like this and some are going to go under.

Government shouldn’t be imposing restrictions or saying whether airlines can fly or not – as idiot Adonis was trying say he was doing earlier. NATS shouldn’t be imposing restrictions or preventing access to airspace – it should be facilitating access to airspace for those who require it. Airspace should always be open. Decisions on wether operations can take place should be made by regulators (CAA) , having gathered relevent information from sources (manufactures, vulcanologists, maybe even the met office), and in coordination with airlines.

Andy

OK I can see where your coming from and yes to a point I agree ,But if NATS think that the risk is to great to allow aircraft in to the airspace ,is it not there duty not to allow aircraft to enter that airspace,
Who would be to blame if a plane was to come down , whould it be NATS for giving the OK or the airline for flying when they knew th risk?

Well thats thrown a spanner in the works.
NATS are reporting that the cloud of Ash is getting worse again.
Scotish Airspace is still on for 0700 open BUT only SOME English airspace by 1300.
But not London

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Volcanic-Ash-Air-Passengers-Warned-Of-Further-Delays-As-New-Ash-Cloud-Spreads-Towards-UK/Article/201004315608774?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15608774_Volcanic_Ash%3A_Air_Passengers_Warned_Of_Further_Delays_As_New_Ash_Cloud_Spreads_Towards_UK

This episode had [I]Spitfires in space[/I] shooting laser beams at a Dalek flying saucer….. and you’re worrying about a WAAF rank badge? 😀

LOL I thought only MSF had threads like this 😀
Also it was a very poor EP

Some maps that may help to inform the discussion:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8625813.stm

looking at the map it does not look like it will get any better < for airspace opening by am Tuesday:(