PT-17 Stearmans in the Mexican AF.
First flown in 1934!
I really hate and feel bitter towards people who write ‘some much’ when they actually mean ‘so much’….
I’ll blame that on large amounts of malt beverage…
We are thinking about ways to deal with users who are repeat, persistent offenders of the troll variety (and that includes the infamous off-topic trolls who make arguments based in no part on anything aviation related). Frank and I had a back-and-forth about this last night and we should be on to something. The main limiting factor right now is that the Webmaster is on vacation this week, and we don’t want to enact some new sweeping policy without his consent, obviously.
I was hesitant to create this thread but I am glad I did and even more happy that maybe it will spawn a bit of change. I am glad people have chimed in with their opinions, even if I disagree with them!
Flygrevyn is what I read when in Sweden.
Pretty decent magazine in my opinion. Also covers some Civil aviation in Scandiland.
This thread is great! Keep them coming!
Wasnt there B-24 v Fw-200 “dogfights” over the Bay of Biscay?
I dont think it’s necessarily an issue of going off topic. There can be some good information when things go off topic. It’s a matter of basic respect and politeness. I have no issue with things going off topic as long as there is respect, patience and tactfulness. It is when people are knowingly trolling, antagonizing or otherwise trying to garner a response that I have issue with. This board just needs a lesson in basic human respect and kindness.
^^^ Truly a sexy beast!
Stunning! Thanks for sharing! I certainly have a thing for the “tre kronor” side of aviation!
Hopefully see a Viggen flying with the historical flight in the future! Keeping my fingers crossed.
What other choice do they have?
Politically, Russian types won’t do, I could see them cutting off support…and possibly the same with French (it’s happened before) and Swedish jets.Not sure about the Eurofighter though.
Not a chance Sweden would sell to Israel. They have refused to train with them on a number of occasions.
When was the last time a NATO fighter collided with a Russian/Soviet bomber? Or, since someone has brought up the Chinese Hanian incident, a Chinese aircraft?
Now, when was the last time a Russian/Soviet/Chinese fighter collided with an American/NATO aircraft?
You misunderstood. I did not mean you in person, I meant you as ‘Russians’.
I, for one, believe star49 is in fact personally responsible with all problems relating to the Baltic States and Russia.
:p
And what are NATO jets doing in Baltic?. Baltic countries are soverign countries but it does not mean they create military structures from outside. the same is true for entire Eastern Europe( Eastern EU does not have coast to Atlantic). No new military structures after end of previous Coldwar (1991). Russia-China resolved border conflict in 90s on basis that military should be far away from borders and they havent violated. Now Russia intendes to apply the same formula to all its neighbors and that will include redrawing of borders for alot of countries. so choice is either go back to what was pre-1991 or much wider scale coldwar.
Denmark and Germany are both old member of NATO and border the Baltic, NATO has been in the Baltic since NATO was created. Nothing new there. Aside of course from the Baltic States now joining as a result of their experiences in the early 1990’s.
Pretty well documented.
http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id331.htm
“As it turned out, the Soviets’ insistence that KAL 007 was being used for intelligence gathering was not as far-fetched as it seemed. The Cuban airline, Cubana, routinely sent planes veering out of authorized flight paths to overfly U.S. military facilities. In Eastern Europe, Finnair flights often intruded on Soviet territory to gather intelligence. Israel’s national airline, El Al, was used for the same purpose. And the Soviet national carrier, Aeroflot, was notorious for unauthorized overflights. In November 1981, an Aeroflot airliner bound for Dulles International Airport took advantage of the air traffic controllers’ strike to overfly the Strategic Air Command center at New Hampshire’s Pease AFB as well as the General Dynamics shipyards at Groton, Connecticut. Soviet aircraft often invaded American Air Defense Identification Zones (ADIZ) — from January to September 1983, 77 Soviet planes entered the Atlantic Coast ADIZ. Their main purpose: to pick up U.S. radar frequencies and record how long it took American interceptors to respond. U.S. reconnaissance planes sometimes violated Soviet airspace, as well. But the U.S. vigorously denied that KAL 007 had been used for intelligence-gathering.”
Only took about two minutes to find that and considering it happened back in the 80s that’s saying something. Most of the times I’ve heard about it have been in various books and I vaguely remember it happening at the time but didn’t recall the Pease AFB flyover.
Thank you!
Reminds me of an infamous Aeroflot flight that “got lost” and flew directly over the Electric Boat SSBN/SSN shipyard. Guess we should have shot it down eh?
Got some info on this?
They are the same so they are carrier capable. Swiss Hornets regularly use the hook to practise arrested landings.
So they have the attachment for the cradle on cats as well?