RE: Pic of the day.
I am lost Kabir. What has this article got anything to do with our banter?
Sam.
RE: Pic of the day.
>Sam i am not disagreeing with what you are saying that
>Boeing wanted a strong foothold in the military sector.
>Maybe what i read was wrong, we are both entitled to our
>opinions.
Kabir,
You are entitled to your opinion no doubt, but issue at stake here is not about opinion. It is about fact. There is no arguing about it, there is fact and there is fiction. No opinions.
Sam.
RE: Pic of the day.
>Sam actually i read this somewhere….thats why i am
>sticking to it. DC 10 was a initial threat to Boeing and so
>was the MD 11. DC 10 sold in respectable numbers, Boeing was
>concerned with that…and when they took out the MD 11,
>Boeing did feel a need to stop the MD 11 from being a
>succes. Boeing just didnt want any major competiton in the
>US civil aviation market.
Kabir,
Even though you read it somewhere does not justify it being correct. My conclusion is you read wrong from dubious sources. Like I said before it is not ONE single factor that determines the acquisition of another entity. You still with me? Now, no doubt Boeing was a little concerned with the popularity of the DC-10 viz-a-viz Boeing aircraft, but that is a normal occurance in any business. Now, would the success of ONE aircraft be the primary decison to buy out McD? Absolutely not.
Like someone pointed out earlier the MD-11 was deemed a failure right from the start, there was nothing innovative about the aircraft. It was just a soupped-up DC-10. From an Aero-enginnering point of view, the MD-11 was not as efficient as the Lockheed 1011.
The acquisition of McD had a lot to due with Boeing wanting a foothold into the military market. Almost 90% of McD’s revenue was generated through military sales and Boeing wanted to diversify its business which would make it less susceptible to the ups and downs in the commercial aviation industry.
DC-10 was NOT major competition. How is one aircraft become a major threat to a global powerhouse like Boeing? Now, if you said Airbus was/is a threat I can understand your logic.
Sam.
RE: Pic of the day.
>i agree with you Sam….but maybe from the civil aviation
>point that was there aim….to take out the MD 11 after they
>saw the huge succes of the DC 10.
Kabir,
The problem with you argument is two-fold. Firstly, the DC-10 was not a threat to Boeing in a larger scale; Boeing was more concerned with Airbus than with the success of the DC-10. Secondly, if Boeing thought the MD-11 was a cash cow it would still be in production today.
Sam.
RE: Pic of the day.
>myabe that also Sam…but this MD 11 factor was very much up
>in the front.
Kabir,
You are way off the mark. No one factor determines the acquisition of another entity. If that were the case Boeing would be in the doldrums today given the fact that the MD-11 is no longer in production.
Boeing’s acquisition of McD is purely strategic in nature. Facing direct competition from Airbus, Boeing took the safer route which expands their line-up and also has a foothold in the military aspect of the business. This in turn guarantees the survivability of Boeing which will not be susceptible to ups and downs in the airline industry.
Sam.
RE: Anti terror war-Isrealis style.
Peres has “doubts” about Ariel Sharon
BERLIN, Sunday (AFP)
Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Shimon Peres has admitted that he is unsure whether Prime Minister Ariel Sharon could be a credible partner for peace in the Middle East conflict, according to an interview to be published here Monday.
In response to a statement that “many Israelis doubt whether Ariel Sharon could be a partner for peace,” Peres told the German weekly Der Spiegel: “Me too, I have my doubts.”
“But what should I do about them? Collect them?” he asked afterward, adding: “As long as I feel able to change something and balance (the situation), I will stay” in the Sharon government.
The Labour party minister renewed his regret over Monday’s raid on Hamas military chief Salah Shehade in which 14 other people were also killed. Peres called it “an error of judgement, a 100-percent mistake.”
“The result clearly shows that we used the wrong weapon.
The bomb was more destructive than it was useful,” he said.
Peres had first said on Wednesday that “a mistake happened during the raid on Shehade.
RE: Anti terror war-Isrealis style.
Peres has “doubts” about Ariel Sharon
BERLIN, Sunday (AFP)
Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Shimon Peres has admitted that he is unsure whether Prime Minister Ariel Sharon could be a credible partner for peace in the Middle East conflict, according to an interview to be published here Monday.
In response to a statement that “many Israelis doubt whether Ariel Sharon could be a partner for peace,” Peres told the German weekly Der Spiegel: “Me too, I have my doubts.”
“But what should I do about them? Collect them?” he asked afterward, adding: “As long as I feel able to change something and balance (the situation), I will stay” in the Sharon government.
The Labour party minister renewed his regret over Monday’s raid on Hamas military chief Salah Shehade in which 14 other people were also killed. Peres called it “an error of judgement, a 100-percent mistake.”
“The result clearly shows that we used the wrong weapon.
The bomb was more destructive than it was useful,” he said.
Peres had first said on Wednesday that “a mistake happened during the raid on Shehade.
RE: Pic of the day.
>But MD 11 was giving competition…that was the reason why
>Boeing bought McDonnel Douglas.
Nonsense. Boeing bought McD to have a foothold in the lucrative military aircraft market.
Sam.
Benjamin……
Ben,
You were taught well by your parents. Its nice to know that there are great europeans (and westerners) like you in this world. I have travelled a lot and met great europeans and americans.
Most people take us third-worlders for a bunch of ignorant people regardless of how educated we are or how well we carry ourselves.
Sam.
Benjamin……
Ben,
You were taught well by your parents. Its nice to know that there are great europeans (and westerners) like you in this world. I have travelled a lot and met great europeans and americans.
Most people take us third-worlders for a bunch of ignorant people regardless of how educated we are or how well we carry ourselves.
Sam.
RE: SriLankan to Colombo from LHR
>Fantastic airline to fly with, food, onboard service,
>friendly, and good seating arrangements.
>I don’t know what that person was saying when he says there
>not as good. I have flown many times with Sri Lankan and
>with Air Lanka, Air Lanka were awful. Emirates have done a
>good job, but Sri Lankan hospitality is out of this world,
>You will enjoy the flight, trust me.
I never said SriLankan was not good. SriLankan and Air Lanka always had great inboard hospitality. On a techincal level, Air Lanka was a much better airline that served the needs of the people.
Sam.
RE: SriLankan to Colombo from LHR
>When have they been undercutting the price on the routes?
>Since the bombing of Columbo airport by the Tamil tigers Sri
>Lankan lost alot of tourism and passengers would not fly
>with them, they are consistently cheaper than Emirates, they
>even have Interline agreement on most fares as well as code
>sharing on certain flight’s, if you want to go to Oz for
>example it’s cheaper with Sri Lankan, and you can use EK
>flight’s on the same fare. I would prefer to go with Sri
>Lankan as I have a daughter and they have childminding
>services on there flights.
SriLankan does not fly to Australia (Sydney) anymore. I am a Sri Lankan and I am very much aware of the progress of the airline. Emirates have been bilking SriLankan for all its worth and there is a lot of support to cancel the agreement with Emirates. The Colombo airport attack had nothing to do with cutting fares.
Sam.
RE: SriLankan to Colombo from LHR
>I would still appreciate any feedback from anyone else who
>has flown with SriLankan, particularly the LHR-CMB route.
I have flown the LHR-CMB route many times. What kind of feedback are you specifically looking for?
Service: Excellent.
Food: Very good.
A nice comfortable flight.
Sam.
RE: SriLankan to Colombo from LHR
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 23-07-02 AT 03:30Â PM (GMT)]>its a great airline since Emirates took share in it. Yup you
>will get A340 and i think it will be a great
>flight….enjoy! 🙂
Sorry, but you have been ill-informed. Ever since Emirates purchased equity in SriLankan Airlines it has been going down. Air Lanka was a much better airline as far as service was concerned.
Whenever an airline buys a stake in a competitor’s airline, it is never for the uplifment of the airline in question. Emirates has been undercutting SriLankan fares and has eliminated some very profitable routes.
GaryLafferty:
I am not trying to discourage you from flying SriLankan Airlines. I was just trying to clear a few misconceptions as far as Kabir is concerned. Enjoy your flight and have a great stay in Sri Lanka.
Sam.
RE: Australia’s refugee problem
I have no problem with Australia not taking in refugees. My problem is with how they are treated. Keeping them in the desert in abysmal conditions is inhumane and does not reflect well with Australians.
There are plenty of other ways to deal with it than putting them in death camps without their claims being expedited. They should be deported immediately.
Sam.