serendibRE: What is the most risque food you have ever eaten?
Arthur, that can be arranged. Let me tell you a funny story. In a suburb in Colombo people were complaining that their doggies are being stolen and were disappearing. After some thought allegations were levelled against a Korean restaurant that had opened up in the recent past that had doggie on their menu. Suffice to say that most people in that area have their dogs in their houses nowadays 😀
How about Escargo? I thought most europeans have had these buggers one time or another.
serendibRE: What is the most risque food you have ever eaten?
I forgot to add that I’ve eaten raw Oysters as well. Went to see Mardi Gras in New Orleans and had boobs and Oysters(Yup, you heard it right). Errr….I had boobs in the night though 😀
I also had fried Alligators and Crawfish(New Orleans delicacy)
Sam.
serendibRE: What is the most risque food you have ever eaten?
I forgot to add that I’ve eaten raw Oysters as well. Went to see Mardi Gras in New Orleans and had boobs and Oysters(Yup, you heard it right). Errr….I had boobs in the night though 😀
I also had fried Alligators and Crawfish(New Orleans delicacy)
Sam.
serendibRE: Short-haul turboprops
>it’s not the ATR he’s listed at the bottom, it’s the ATP…
When I meant bottom, I was speaking figuritively. Occupying the 9th and 10th spot out of a list of 14 means its at the bottom half. I am just curious to know why wysiwyg does not think too highly of the ATR aircraft.
Sam.
serendibRE: Pic of the Day-My favourite large turboprop
Its definitely nice to look at, but its not for the passenger who is used to being in relatively noise-free cabins.
Sam.
serendibRE: Short-haul turboprops
Many thanks for your long post wysiwyg. However, I have a few follow-up questions for you.
>The Dash also
>has a type commonality ranging from 30-70 seats. Ican’t
>think of any other offering such a wide range.
If I am not mistaken the ATR series offers cockpit commonality as well. Also, from what I have read about the ATR series, cargo capacity and ease of operations is excellent.
>It also has
>an exceedingly good cockpit (both the older type in the
>100-300 series and the new 400 cockpit). I could list many
>more benefits of the Canadian design but this post would
>then be so long no one would read it!
If you have the time, I would very much enjoy reading the advantages of the Dash cockpits.
You seem to have rated the ATR aircraft at the bottom, could you state your reasons for doing so?
Sam.
serendibRE: Short-haul turboprops
>Yes the last mass-produced Beech 1900 was delivered last
>year because airline demand for the aircraft has dropped in
>favour of regional jets. Really can you blame them though?
>They are faster, larger, smoother and passengers prefer them
>because they feel safer.
Your statement is not entirely true. There is still a big demand for TP aircraft. Its just that the Beech 1900 is up against some stiff competition and it has nothing to do with waning demand for TPs.
Here is a great link.
http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRheft/FRH0202/FR0202g.htm
An excerpt:
Tyrolean has no plans to depart from its present mix of jets and turboprops. As far as they are concerned in Innsbruck, the economics are quite straightforward. “For distances of 250 kilometres, turboprops are more economical.” On connections up to 500km the two types of plane are equally economical. “Only when travel time exceeds two hours does the jet become more profitable,” says Messner. Hence, for example, a Dash-8 is used on the Innsbruck-Frankfurt route. “The jet is five minutes faster, but this time is lost again in ground handling at large airports alone because of the long distances involved. In Messner’s view, “upgrading to jets is often simply a matter of prestige.”
Sam.
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>Interesting article Sam.
>
>It is worth noting that lots of the aircraft up for
>selection are no longer in production – Saabs and Dornier
>certainly, not sure about the Y7. But I would be surprised
>if the Chinese Y7 could compete with the eventual winner.
>
>Do you know if they ever took delivery of any aircraft?
I doubt they ever did. Royal Nepal Airlines seems to be in a mess and their website http://www.royalnepal.com is not very informative. As far as I know, RNAL flies 10 Twin Otters and 1 HS.748 aircraft on their domestic routes.
Here is a link outlining the situation of RNAL.
http://www.nepalnews.com.np/contents/englishweekly/spotlight/2003/jan/j…
Sam.
serendibRE: Short-haul turboprops
mongu,
Here’s a Royal Nepal Airlines report that echoes your sentiments.
http://www.nepalnews.com.np/contents/englishweekly/spotlight/2000/sep/s…
Here is an excerpt:
In search of 50-70 seater Turbo Prop aircrafts for the airlines, the committee analyzed the initial technical information for 12 different aircraft including ATR 72-500, ATR 42-500, EMB 120 ER, DASH8-100, DASH8-200, DASH8-300, DASH8-400, SAAB 340B, SAAB 2000, CN 235-300, DORNIER 328-120 and Y7-100.
Finally, the committee short-listed 6 aircraft including ATR 42-500, ATR 72-500, DASH 8-300, DASH 8-400, SAAB 2000 and Y7-100 which fulfilled the requirements proposed by RNAC’s technical and marketing department.
According to the report of RNAC’s Aircraft Purchasing Feasibility sub-committee for domestic flights presented in January 2000, the technical validity of 6 short-listed aircrafts analyzed under the 15 basic criteria like brand new was aircraft, 50-70 seat capacity, minimum 30″ seat pitch, wing position and vision, total number of manufacture and regional support, one minimum toilet, wheel base, number of wheels, landing gear position, certifications, Cargo hold (Space, Capacity and provision), Runway performance certification, Paro Airport performance, CVR, FDR, TCAS, Emergency locator, transponder etc and IFR approval.
This committee headed by board member Shankar Prasad Koirala included almost all senior officials of RNAC including representatives from Civil Aviation Authority of Nepal (CAAN) as its members.
Finally, the Koirala sub-committee selected four aircraft ATR 42-500, ATR 72-500, DASH 8-300, DASH 8-400 on the basic criteria. One of the reasons for the demand of such aircraft is to operate mountain flights. On the basis of cost of operation and unobstructed window, ATR 72-500 has no match, the report says.
Analyzing the cost effectiveness, the sub-committee recommended ATR-72 aircraft saying it has the lowest per seat investment cost, operating cost per block hour, annual profitability, profitability of per block hour and regional compatibility. According to the sub-committee, the aircraft is also technologically proven with maintenance and training facilities available in the region.
Interestingly, all committees have endorsed the proposal of 1993 committee which had recommended ATR-72 as the alternative despite the fact that the plane could not operate conveniently in major trunk routes.
As far as mountain flights are concerned, ATR-42 has 26 unobstructed windows vision compared to 42 in ATR-72. In terms of cargo and passenger carrying capacity, the aircraft’s per seat investment cost is lower than others. The total cost of ATR-72 is 16.9 million US dollars. The per seat investment cost is 0.2485 million US dollars. The operating cost per block hours is 1,958.3 US dollars against 1,697.4 US dollars of ATR-42.
serendibRE: Short-haul turboprops
Thank you very much for your trouble mongu. I appreciate it very much.
I see your logic in selecting the ATR fleet; but aren’t you solely basing that decision on costs per km? Shouldn’t you take other factors into consideration as well? Maintenence costs? e.t.c?
Sam.
serendibRE: Short-haul turboprops
mongu,
How about comparing the Dash-8 300 to the ATR in fuel consumption? Do you have a website I can look at?
Thanks,
Sam.
serendibRE: Short-haul turboprops
Very interesting feedback.
Is the Dash-8 more economical than the ATR series as well? Also, is the Dash-8 and the ATR series the most advanced short-haul TPs in the market today?
I also read that Beech 1900s will not be mass produced anymore and will be only made on a selective basis for customers with cash in hand.
Sam.
serendibRE: Pic of the Day-My favourite large turboprop
Actually there is a domestic airline in Sri Lanka called Air Lanka which flies the ‘Coot.’
Here is the link
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/234886/L/
Maybe Kabir can upload it and post it here.
Sam.
serendibRE: Have a Read Of This
Sauron,
At least you are honourable enough to admit that you haven’t seen war in your lifetime. People who have been to war are much more sceptial about going to war; they have seen the carnage and despair firsthand.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2705275.stm
Stormin’ Norman: Don’t rush into war
Former US Gulf War commander Norman Schwarzkopf has said a new war with Iraq has not yet been justified.
General Schwarzkopf, who became known as “Stormin’ Norman” during the 1991 Gulf War, called for United Nations weapons inspectors to be given more time to assess whether Iraq had any illegal weapons.
“I think it is very important for us to wait and see what the inspectors come up with, and hopefully they come up with something conclusive,” he said in an interview with the Washington Post.
Interviewed at his home in Tampa, Florida, the 68-year-old retired general said he would like “better information” before he supported an invasion of Iraq.
“The thought of Saddam Hussein with a sophisticated nuclear capability is a frightening thought,” he said.
“Now, having said that, I don’t know what intelligence the US Government has.”
‘Nervous’ about Rumsfeld
US President George Bush, speaking in his annual State of the Union address late on Tuesday, said he would present fresh evidence to the UN next week about Iraq’s weapons programme.
General Schwarzkopf praised his former comrade-in-arms, US Secretary of State Colin Powell, but said he was “somewhat nervous” about comments made by the Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld.
“When he makes his comments, it appears that he disregards the Army,” he was quoted as saying.
“He gives the perception when he’s on TV that he is the guy driving the train and everybody else better fall in line behind him – or else.”
General Schwarzkopf led US troops to victory in a UN-sanctioned allied military operation that followed Iraq’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait.
He served under President George Bush senior. At the time, Colin Powell was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and current Vice President ##### Cheney was defence secretary.
He remains close to the Bush family and campaigned in Florida with Mr Cheney during the 2000 presidential election, the Washington Post said.
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