Ray funnel used a chemical in a room at Cardington and i returned later where he informed me a date range of 20 years before and 10 years after ww2 = 1919-1955.Not quite as narrow margin as i was expecting. The carbon test was done because having heard of such copies being produced after my initial visit to him years earlier,i wanted advise…..
I feel the need to comment!! :rolleyes:
IIRC Ray Funnell was Keeper of Aircraft for the RAF Museum, who I dealt with over the loan of the Oxford and Harvard airframes to NAM.
He was a very obliging person – as for him doing a quick radio carbon test can I respectfully suggest that you read the following to get a real idea of what’s involved http://www.radiocarbon.com/analytic.htm
Plus one thing to remember, carbon dating is also a destructive procees!
I may be mistaken, but isn’t Spitfire TE311 being funded by the friends of the BBMF ?? I know that there is a group of supporters but the name ecapes me at the moment…..
Lincolnshire’s Lancaster Association 🙂
:diablo: Certainly not this one …. http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1513373&postcount=25
On the other side of Nottinghamshire NAM displays one of Hucknall’s test-bed airframes, Meteor FR.9 (Mod) VZ608, which was used for the RB.108 vertical lift trials in the 1950s that were a major part of the V-TOL programme.
You can see the distinctive ‘coal scuttle’ air intake on the aircraft in the bottom left hand side of the main picture on this page of the NAM website.
In the Engine Display building at NAM is an ex-TSR.2 panel, which I’m advised is definitely not going to form the basis of any ‘rebuild project’ – despite the museum recently adding an online donation scheme to its website! 😀
In the same building there is an Olympus 101 engine, which some museum volunteers say was modified to act as an engine test-bed as part of the development work for the TSR-2 programme. However I’m not certain of the validity of that claim. :confused:
Seems like a job well done – congratulations to all involved. Any plans for getting it tethered more securely?
There are also some references and feedback in this item from ‘Bee’ http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/oldstuff/2005/bee/bee.htm
It’s actually a ‘sister’ replica to the recreation/restoration by Skysport of the essentially identical Westland Wallace II fuselage now in the RAF Museum.
http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/collections/aircraft/westland-wallace-ii.cfm
The RAFM recreation / restoration was made possible thanks to the sets of frames recovered by the founders of Newark Air Museum from woods near RAF Cranwell in the early 1960s.
Stored for many years at the Abbotts Boiler Works in Newark, these were exchanged with the RAFM by the late Neville Franklin in the 1970s.
🙂 Now tucked up in Hangar 2 here courtesy of the Duxford Aviation Society.
Is that blue object by the nose part of a Beverley towing arm? :confused:
What me!! 😮 I prefer to call it a ‘market opportunity’ 😉
😀 Some places will still be open 361 days per year; have held their prices at 2009 levels and the same applies for their membership rates! 😉
That might be why in the past I’ve mis-quoted it as ‘XB251’ about these parts – it’s shown correctly in their Guide Book.
I’ll bring the matter to the attention of the person that looks after their website!
As a pont of note the colour scheme has been reapplied in those it wears in Jamie-Southend’s picture.
😉 We could try this one! http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1521550#post1521550
Already signed …. just in case!! 🙁
That article is dated 2002 though, so they have been dragging their heels somewhat. I have a feeling though that things may start to kick off ‘soon’.
I’ve just checked and my first recorded communication on this topic came from BAPC in October 2001. Since then some organisations and individuals have insisted that it’s not an issue; whilst others have acted and taken the recognised appropriate steps.
The situation is only going to become more regulated, not less. Judging by the earlier posts it’s not just a British issue; “Times they’re changing!”
IMHO there are other factors driving this situation on an international basis, which I have communicated to various people off board – not just the acknowledged health ones! 🙁
I think XF940 has also hit the nail on the head regarding cockpits at public events and events like Aeroboots and the like. Please remember that it isn’t just certain instrumentation, other items are affected e.g. engine parts, recovered artefacts etc
Some museums are now licensed for retaining ‘their own’ materials, but not other peoples; likewise some have disposed of material via a national approved scheme brokered by BAPC. Sadly some decided not to follow advice.
My understanding is that previously exempt ‘sectors’ might also be coming under the spotlight again