Nashio – why Manchester? It may have something to do with Shackletons being built there.
Part of the WR977 story is outlined on this link, as was posted on the WL930 thread.
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/oldstuf…hack/shack.htm
Remember a Varsity and Beverly [except the cockpit, which is now at Aero Venture] were lost in the “Silver Jubilee Cull” at Finningley in 1977.
According to their Virtual Museum CD ROM, Newark’s Lancaster fuselage section that is now in the “Lancaster Corner” is ex-9 Squadron, Mk.1 W4964, WS-J [106 Ops].
Prior to moving to the museum in 1974 this was being used as a garden shed!
:confused: If they are struggling for funds to continue flying – where is the money coming from for a rumoured new hangar?:confused:
With all due respect Ritch & Max, the issue of Health & Safety has nothing to do with Bruntingthorpe being a museum or not.
I bet TVOC know all about Risk Assessments, Method Statements etc.; as will many other organisations that are based there.
RAF Winthorpe
Station 52 – RAF Winthorpe was “Clickheel”.
I believe that Newark Air Museum also later used the phrase “Operation Clickheel” as the name of their fund raising campaign to generate the partnership funding for their HLF project.
Skips and important documents are not uncommonly linked!
About 18 months ago I was speaking with a curator from a museum [non-aviation] in the Lutterworth area. Someone had recently rescued some of the original Whittle Engine Patent documentation from skip in their local area – when the person highlighted the importance of the documents to the dumper, their reaction was – “So what, who’s he?”
A little further out but I posted these details in the autumn….
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=76255&highlight=Books
Not sure whether the details will still be on their website!
In some ways there is nothing new about firearm deactivation, especially when you look back to a situation that occurred at RAF Sculthorpe in the late 1970s. I have just spoken with Newark’s Curator and he recalls major issues over the deactivation of the cannons on the F100s and Mysteres.
The USAF welded the barrels and breeches of all the cannons, but back in Nottinghamshire the museum encountered a major problem over the ‘viability’ of the cannons. At the time the County Police Force had one of the largest collections of confiscated weaponry in the UK and they seemed determined to impound these items.
Eventually a compromise was reached and a museum member was awarded a licence to cover these and other items. That person is the current Curator and he recounted how at one of the regular spot checks the inspecting officer said that he “thought one round would clear the blockage!” I’m told that he was asked to try it along way from the museum site.
At the time it is believed their concern was over the possibility of items getting into the hands of the terrorists in Northern & Southern Ireland.
When the museum licence last came up for renewal [circa 2 years ago] I’m told that because Newark is a Registered Museum they were placed on a new national licence/ permit scheme that no longer required items to be individually listed. Even more beneficial is that no fee is now charged.
Nice one, Mark was also almost correct, Avro 688 Tudor 8, later became Avro 689 Tudor 9 which was renamed Ashton !
WB491 – ex Cardiff & Woodford; now Newark
Yeah, like a coffee shop or somethin.. :rolleyes:
A difficult call, especially when a café might not seem to be truly “aircraft orientated” – but it could help provide a healthy long-term revenue stream to help save an aircraft!!:eek:
The secretary of the BAPC is a regular reader of this forum…….:D
As an aside…. actually getting back to the tread topic… almost…
Our F100 is in dire need of help. I looked at it today, and its pretty much knackered. We need some new wings….tail… fin…:eek:
The Victor at Marham must be considered to be in grave danger of facing the chop… They now have a tornado and a canberra….
Boulmers Phantom is safe… so don’t worry about that one.;)
IMHO the NAHR is very much “on topic” as one of its uses is to act as reference point for airframes that move into ‘danger’ either through a group’s demise or through airframes being offered for sale overseas.
As for BAPC, it is my personal belief that they should be shouting the merits of the NAHR at every opportunity.
With regard to NEAM’s F100 – I understood that your ‘chair’ had come to some agreement re a ‘rolling wing exchange and repair programme!’
G-AMLZ was listed as Noteworthy in the 2001 edition.
Top category is National Benchmark, then Significant and finally Noteworthy.
Two Benchmark Pericival [Sea] Prince and Pembrokes were:
WV746 @ Cosford
WP313 @FAAM
There were no significant airframes listed.
Status of airframes can also change as their situation changes e.g. going inside increases status, moving outside could decrease status!
I have also emailed Robert with an offer to scan him the classification criteria.
As has been widely published Newark used the National Aviation Heritage Register [NAHR] to secure Heritage Lottery Funding for their Hangar 2, and in so doing provided accommodation for the first Varsity to on display inside. See Newark’s full listing status on their website:
http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/aircraftlist.htm
I have been a vocal support of the system on here many times before. The original NAHR documents were compiled by Ken Ellis on behalf of BAPC. Last summer all BAPC members were asked to submit details of changes to their airframe lists so a new Regsiter could be produced – as yet I understand the new Register has not been published.
BAPC also had a similar list for aero engines put together by Peter Kirk.
Newark now have some similar panoramic shots on their website including a Vulcan cockpit shot – follow the link from their homepage.