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  • in reply to: climbing in #1283048
    TwinOtter23
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    Where there is a will, there is a way.

    Not sure where you live in Linconshire
    Train from Lincoln to Newark North Gate (25 mins)
    Train from Newark North Gate to Peterborough (30 mins),
    Train from Peterborough to Biggleswade (35 mins).
    Bicycle from Biggleswade to Old Warden (10 min) – I do this part on a regular basis
    total time, about 2 hours

    Alternatively you could break your journey at Newark Northgate Station and become a volunteer at Newark!

    http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/membership.htm

    Or perhaps one of the Lincolnshire Groups – Thorpe Camp, Metheringham etc

    in reply to: CockpitFest 2007 #1285515
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    Newark’s website has a Cockpit Fest update part of the text is shown below:

    “Cockpit-Fest 2007 Update – 01
    The first confirmations of participation at Cockpit-Fest 2007 [Saturday 16th & Sunday 17th June 2007] have now been received and in a great boost to this growing event, four of the first six cockpits to indicate their participation are new ‘cockpitters’ to our event.

    These cockpits are: Hawk T.1; Harrier GR.3; Canberra T.22 and Beagle Pup Series 1; which will join previous participants – a Hornet F.1 and Hunter FGA.9.”

    More at:

    http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/news.php

    in reply to: Lightning XR724 (2007 thread) #1287707
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    If you take a look at my website album you will see the state of the nissen huts, who would want to buy them?

    I appreciate their condition – but I’m not sure that they were being sold; the angle seemed to be the ‘urgent’ need to save some of Binbrook’s aviation heritage.

    Four units were mentioned in the communication that I saw on February 26th 2007.

    in reply to: Lightning XR724 (2007 thread) #1288034
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    Earlier this week I heard that some of the nissen hut accommodation at Binbrook was up for possible disposal – on a fairly urgent timescale; might this affect the status of XR724?

    in reply to: Vulcan 607 – An awesome book! #1291915
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    There is a forthcoming opportunity to listen to and question both the author and mission participants at the Palace Theatre Newark on May 22nd 2007 during Newark Air Museum’s Vulcan Bomber Memories event.

    http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/specialevents.htm

    There are also updated details on the News and Information page.

    in reply to: climbing in #1294874
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    I have noticed that visitors can get into some cockpits at Newark Air Museum up until this Sunday as it’s half term open cockpit week – fee to be paid.

    Not sure what’s open but there is a link below.

    http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/specialevents.htm

    in reply to: National Cold War Exhibition RAF Cosford #1303357
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    The rusty finish on the frame work in the cold war building is to protect it, I am told it is some sort of chemical process.

    The chemical process is called corrosion [rust].

    I have been told by managers at Cosford on two separate occasions that this finish is a design feature to represent the state of much of the former eastern bloc equipment / infrastructure! I don’t believe either of them was joking.

    The only part that I have seen that is protected is at floor levels; where a clear varnish of some sort has been applied to stop it brushing off onto clothing.

    in reply to: Viggen – 40 years old today #1308973
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    The Viggen for Newark arrived at RAF Cranwell a year ago as yesterday [February 7th 2006] scroll down the Air-Scene UK link.

    http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/scene/scenefeb06.htm

    The aircraft is also shown on one of the pages of their new website

    http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/news.htm

    in reply to: Duxford's Shackleton. #1314624
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    When the GAM open days were part of the Southern Counties Vehicle show we used to be able to get insurance cover under their standard public liability policy. This changed a few years ago and we were told that a specific policy would be required to cover any insurance claims. The quotes for this policy ran into thousands, there was no way that we could afford these costs and any entrance charges would not come anywhere near paying for it. This had a demotivating effect on the crew keeping 982(J) running and as a result it has had only small amounts of work done on it for the past 4-5 years. Only in the last few months have we started work to bring her back into full running condition. This is partly in anticipation of WR982s birthday (she was “born” on the 11th of June 1957, according to the data plate in the nose wheel bay). The decision as to what form the celebration will take is still to be made, for the reasons given above this is very unlikley to be a public occasion.

    We would like very much to share the sound of 4 griffons growling above the noise of departing airliners, but……

    There appears to be a lot of 50th Anniversary activity this year for the Shackleton Mk3.

    See link below

    http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/specialevents.htm

    in reply to: Vulcan Event #1321495
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    Newark’s website has been updated with additional details about speakers at the Vulcan event.

    “VULCAN BOMBER MEMORIES – UPDATE 01

    As a further update to the Vulcan Bomber Memories event – the museum is pleased to announce that Hugh Prior will be the “Cold War Veteran” who will introduce the Vulcan’s cockpit and the various crew duties. Hugh Prior was AEO on XM607 for the Black Buck raid on the Port Stanley runway. [26.01.07]”

    More at http://www.newarkairmuseum.co.uk/news.cfm

    in reply to: 'Decommissioning' aircraft #1329965
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    I came across this link a while back that details the delivery of Vulcan XM594 to Newark in 1983.

    Despite their being a fuel bowser in one of the pictures there is no mention about the deactivation schedule, which I am told took about 4 days post-delivery to de-fuel and remove certain avionics. During a look round the Vulcan at an open day I was told that much of the gear that had been removed was later purchased from a local scrap-yard and replaced.

    http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/oldstuff/2005/newarkvulc/newark.htm

    in reply to: Shackleton to fly #1245517
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    Who actually owns WL963 and WL790 mentioned in Sqn Ldr F J Cubberley’s letter in the Daily Mail?

    The Shackleton Preservation Trust, Air Atlantique Classic Flight or another organisation?

    This ownership status could affect the likelihood of the project even qualifying for HLF funding.

    in reply to: One for Shackleton fans #1247574
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    Oh wouldn’t it be great if one of her griffons was able to be runup again …:rolleyes:

    Peter

    A nice idea, but having read in the book Shackleton WR977 – Dedication To Duty about how the aircraft was dismantled so quickly to move it from RAF Finningley back in 1977 I don’t think that the Griffons will turn at Newark.

    However I believe that the ones on the Mk.3 at Gatwick are run sometimes.

    in reply to: Aircaft preservation insights. #1252469
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    I know this is going over old ground and as it’s too late to work out how to capture the appropriate links to the actual thread but I would like to re-quote a couple of my posts from February 2006 on the “State of Preservation Today” thread.

    “There is little doubt that someone could write a University thesis on this topic and still leave much ground un-touched. Here are a few of my thoughts and a couple of question questions.

    Several years ago I attended a seminar organised by the British Aviation Preservation Council [BAPC] at Duxford in the summer of 2000. The seminar reviewed the way forward to protect the Benchmark and Significant airframes on the National Aviation heritage Register [NAHR] and one very interesting figure emerged from the review. Assuming a typical cost of between £250 and £300 to provide one square metre of basic under cover aircraft accommodation, it would “only” cost between £35 and £40 million to get all the Benchmark and Significant airframes listed on the NAHR under cover. I highlight the word “only”, because this is a small amount when you look at what has been poured into ventures like the Millennium Dome, etc.

    For up to date costing data refer to Flypast – March 2005 and Newark’s Heritage Lottery Funded Hangar, project cost £533,000 to provide 2,400m² of basic under cover accommodation at a cost of £222 per m². Admittedly this does not provide accommodation to the standards being achieved by the national museums with their environmentally controlled facilities, but it certainly slows the deterioration to a more manageable level.

    In the drive for funding opportunities many independent museums have become Registered Museums through the Museums and Galleries Commission Registration process [now called Resource]. This means that many voluntary managed museums are already working hard towards, and achieving standards similar to those attained by the national museums.

    My first question would be why have the national museums like Duxford, Hendon, Cosford and the Fleet Air Arm Museum been forced to seek HLF funding to complete their building projects?

    I think that if this money had been directed at the Independent museums, many aircraft could already be under cover. I guess the answer surly comes down to Government funding or more precisely the lack of appropriate funding for the national museums.

    The Government have already diluted the effect of money the public contributes via the National Lottery by widening the causes that the Lottery supports. This problem could be further exaggerated if the current review of the HLF comes up with the wrong conclusions. HLF are currently undertaking their strategic planning for the period 2008-2013, the consultation closes on February 28th 2006 and I urge everyone who has concerns to check out their website and comment http://www.hlf.org.uk/future/

    Another Government policy has contributed to the lack of funding for the national museums and has a creeping effect on many voluntary / independent museums across the country and is not just pertinent to the aviation sector. The Government’s policy of reducing and in some cases eliminating admission fees at many national museums has not only reduced income at the nationals but also impacted on the independent museums. I’ve heard many people question why they should have to pay to visit independent museum when other “larger” venues are free”.

    Also:

    “Bruce

    In my first post on the Cosford thread I noted, “I read somewhere that Newark Air Museum used the BAPC [British Aviation Preservation Council] produced National Aviation Heritage Register when deciding that the Varsity would go inside their new building; rather than the Vulcan, Hastings and Shackleton. As these types were already displayed under cover in other collections”.

    I understand that the NAHR and the aircraft status on this Register was one of the main justifications in their Heritage Lottery Fund [HLF] application, along with developing the training theme, which is not covered elsewhere.

    I guess the Jetstream going inside follows the training lineage from the Varsity and I believe they are using the Sea Harrier to complete the VTOL lineage that started with their Meteor FR.9 test-bed that has local significance with Rolls Royce Hucknall.

    JDK

    One other point of clarification to my earlier post, to attain Registered Museum Status any museum must have an approved Collections and Disposals Policy.”

    in reply to: Aircaft preservation insights. #1253109
    TwinOtter23
    Participant

    IMHO I do not think that it is the contributors that can be called into question or their sources, but more the age of the report; especially when you consider the significant changes that have taken place in the last two years, not least to the population of airliners in preservation.

    Also I respectfully suggest that we should not undervalue the level of understanding that the Heritage Lottery Fund [HLF] has on the topic and the problems involved. I have already posted several times about how the National Aviation Heritage Register – referred to in the Transport Trust document has been used successfully by museums to secure HLF funding.

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