Don,
I became involved with 619 Squadron in 2005, initially through one of their crews having trained with 1661 HCU at RAF Winthorpe. That developed significantly and part of my aim is to ensure that they no longer are “The Forgotten Squadron”. Yesterday I booked in for this year’s 619 Squadron Association Reunion, which is being held in mid-April; I’m partly double booked with the NAM Indoor Aeroboot but I will make the Dinner on Saturday night and Church Parade on the Sunday.
The 619 Squadron Association is full of marvellous characters and I may be visiting their secretary this weekend to show him a dedication that is currently being prepared in their honour for a forthcoming edition of FlyPast. I’ll try and send you a sneak preview off board.
I’d forgotten my earlier posts but as I said I’ll try and direct your enquiry into my contacts in Europe.
The NAM website News Page has recently been updated with details of a new Corgi die-cast arrival – of a type much speculated about in these parts! 😀
Kev
Don’t some projects have to move forward on hope and expectation, based on a plan, as much as anything else? Surely no one would be fool enough to guarantee a successful long term outcome when pitching for HLF cash. Particularly when other funding was also needed.
Some of the points re HLF funding have been addressed in a thread that seems to have escaped capture into this main one http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=57081&highlight=Bank+HLF
Part of the HLF application should have been an Options Appraisal / Risk Assessment of what might happen if the funding were not in place. That said the HLF aspects might be a red herring. As I understand things the HLF grant was to return the aircraft to the air and did not necessarily cover ongoing operating costs.
For the HLF project that I have been involved with feedback is continuing ‘post-completion’ and IIRC the contract that was signed covered at least 10 years ‘post-completion’.
The ‘return the aircraft to the air’ comment was made and emphasised during a presentation by a representative from the HLF at the BAPC 40th Anniversary Meeting at Rolls-Royce Derby; he also said “…never again!”
The unit was originally held by this company http://www.babcock-exhibitions.com/case_studies.php
I’ve just checked my files but I cannot find the tender info (now archived at NAM); IIRC it was a high four figure sum.
The ex-“RAF Bottesford” exhibit that IIRC fetched silly money on tender? :confused:
Young people are the lifeblood of any museum – ignore them at your peril, they’re the future visitors that you’ll come to rely on in a few years time! 🙂
Ditto!
…. the lovely two seat NF.3 at Newark…..
IIRC there was very little interest in WX905 when NAM tendered for it back in 1989. It had been in storage for many years with the RAFM Reserve Collection at RAF Henlow and was moved to Winthorpe in April 1989.
WX905 proudly wears the markings of 23 Squadron and is listed as National Benchmark airframe on the National Aviation Heritage Register. 🙂
That’s a sound idea.
They could call it something like the British Aircraft Preservation Society
Moggy
Next meeting Saturday 27th February 2010 – North East Air Museum! 😀
Don’t underestimate them!
In 2004 NAM lost several thousand square metres worth of cladding for its Hangar 2 project – carried off site by hand, over a secure 2m barbed wire topped fence (no apparent break-in) – all in the space of little over 8 hours.
Trails of blood (hands cut on edges of sheets) showed the exit route – not worth trying to get DNA samples though! :rolleyes:
All eventually located at a ‘site’ just off the A17 towards Leadenham – but guess what nobody knew who owned the lock-ups that it was all stashed in!!
Latest ruse is to just turn up at site – try to drive through gate and go looking for scrap! When challenged they can never remember the name of the person that asked them to come and collect the scrap. Forgetful lot aren’t they.
:diablo: Will it be at Cockpit-Fest??? 😀
“Not worth collecting the DNA”
😮
Did the Police tell you that?!
Yes! :rolleyes:
Details of the January 2010 prize winners of NAM’s Observer Corps Aircraft Recognition Competition are now available on the News Page of the museum website! 🙂
I’ve been over at Newark today looking at some of the Hangar display layouts for the Tribute to the V-Force event in April. Arising from those discussions I believe that several of the ‘planners’ for the Falklands Ops will be present in April so you could come along and ask the questions face to face!
From the museum website:
“5. Daily Lecture
Wg Cdr Barry Neal will be presenting a daily lecture on Air to Air Refuelling in the South Atlantic during Black Buck 1. Barry Neal was the captain of a Victor Tanker that operated twice during that mission and was the aircraft that met Vulcan 607 on its return from the Falklands.”
Former V-Force personnel sought
An appeal letter has been sent out to a wide range of press contacts across the UK, if you know of any former V-Force personnel or people that have associations with Valiants, Vulcans or Victor please ask them to get in touch. Below is an extract from the letter; N.B. the event is also open to the general public.
“As before the reunion side of the event is being organised by a team of former V-Force Officers, whose aim is to bring together as many former aircrew and ground support staff as possible. This team is keen to hear from any former personnel and full details of the activities planned and how to join the reunion can be gathered from their excellent reunion website http://www.vforcereunion.co.uk
The museum has been supporting this effort by trying to establish contact with personnel who are felt still likely to live in areas around the 10 designated V-Force Bases at:
RAF Coningsby
RAF Cottesmore
RAF Finningley
RAF Gaydon
RAF Honington
RAF Marham
RAF Scampton
RAF Waddington
RAF Wittering
RAF Wyton
Plus no V-Force event would be possible without also mentioning RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus and the various dispersal airfields around the world, too many in numbers to mention.
Additional contact work has been tried around the various manufacturing sites for the Vickers Valiant at Weybridge; Avro Vulcan at Woodford, Chadderton, Bracebridge Heath and Bitteswell; and the Handley Page Victor at Cricklewood and Radlett.”