Many Air Defence systems are mounted on vehicles these days, especially the shorter-ranged systems.
OK. But that was always the case, right ? Air Defense systems like BUK, Panstir etc were always mounted on vehicles to facilitate rapid re deployment. Rather SAMs, that are capable of targeting an incoming hostile aircraft at long and short ranges backed up by Anti-Aicraft Artillery (AAA)are probably more effective.
Another factor in the SAM vs airplane issue is the ability of modern SAMs to rapidly relocate..
How are they rapidly relocating ? IOW, is this because of some recent technological advancement ? I say this because, most SAMs do not carry enough fuel to change their location, frequently in order to engage the target.
New Rules Of War – Sean McFate
The SU 57 needs some export orders. Without export orders this project is unlikely to survive. It might go down the Mig 35 path. Hardly any country (with the exception of Kazakhstan & Egypt) has placed orders for the Mig -35. Even the F-35 program took off, because the US Government was able to strike export deals with several countries.
Increasingly buyers(especially in Asia-Pacific & Mid East) are getting around financial constraints by raising the money from banks and other off-budget funding sources. So interested buyers might procure the Su 57. But for that it needs to display at the very least the same sophistication of the F-35. Instead what we see is plenty of bolts and other crap sticking out of it. It isn’t stealthy from the front with all of those bolts nor the back with exposed engine casings. Furthermore, currently Russia doesn’t even have any active service GaAS AESA radars.
Also, they are waiting on Su-57 to become a mature platform with its launch customer (VKS) before committing to what will inevitably be an extremely long process of setting up “made in India” or w/e you want to call it domestic production.
Now that China has already procured the S-400, India probably will no longer be interested in procuring the Su-57 (or whatever its Indian variant is). The S-400 was designed from the outset to take out stealth aircraft.
Doubt if even the F-22 stands a chance against the S-400.
The Pakistani F-16 was hit by a R-73 missile, according to media sources. Pakistani F-16’s should have on board jammers to jam incoming missiles. Any reason why it failed to jam the R -73?
The Navy’s F-35s Finally Have a Deployment Date
On board the bombers are very powerful systems of electronic warfare. Sometimes fighter radar will not be able to attack a bomber
That’s right, but EW systems are limited by range. They don’t have the long range that missiles have. A2A missiles like AIM 120D will be used to target bombers at BVR.
Similarly I suspect Russian fighter jets can use K-100 from BVR to target enemy bombers.
Which is why, I think it probably makes sense for bombers to carry air to air missile, because it provides them some protection.
It might have been possible to fit AAMs into the internal bay, but it certainly couldn’t have been done in the same time.
Isn’t it necessary to modify the racks first before AAMs can be fitted? It’s not possible to fit AAMs in Racks meant for air to surface missiles.
RAF Nimrod MPAs were fitted to carry Sidewinder in 1982, so that they could give a nasty surprise to fighters that intercepted them, & shoot down any Argentinean recce aircraft they encountered. But they were under the wings, not in the internal weapons bay.
I suspect that’s because the internal weapons bay cannot be modified to carry A2A missiles.
Launcher missiles “air-to-air” for the bomber Sukhoi “product 54S”
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Any reason why the Russia Air Force did not opt for air-to-air missiles in their bombers like Tu-160, Tu 95 or Tu 22?
Hat Tip to Stephen Trimble:
Quick conversion missile system for widebody aircraft
So, why didn’t the USAF opt for this conversion in the B-1,B-2 or B-52?
I’ve often thought this would make an interesting air defence concept – arm either bombers or AWACS platforms with novel long range AAM with at least the same range as the AWACS detection radar and you have yourself a very potent air defence platform. Coupled with IFR, it could provide a long endurance, mobile “SAM in the sky”, so to speak.
AWACS and Bombers luck the ability (equipment) to direct missiles to a target. Detecting, tracking, targeting and directing a missile to the target are all very different things.
Yeah, I get that part. However what I was trying to figure out is, whether in their current configuration, can these Bombers carry A2A missiles (a) Internally and (b) Externally ?
I would be happy to share you another book which like Paul Zachary’s Tactical and Strategic missile Guidance and M Shyednor’s book on missile guidance. Both which im unable to make use with as it contain heavier amount of maths than
I am not sure which book you are referring to. There are tons of such books at the USAF library apart from libraries owned by DoD & Pentagon. I suspect some books are available in the open but I do not know which book you are referring to.
Everything…Feel free to criticize my spreadsheet. and of course show yours.. I give my source.i want to see how you use it.
Did I ever say that I am here to criticize your work?
Not suddenly shouting “Hey you must be end user to do this blablabla” I found that behavior cancerous and not constructive.
How is calling someone an “end user” be defined as “Cancerous” and ” not constructive”?? An end user in this case refers to a pilot. I thought it was a given, but clearly you did not understand it so you label my post as something condescending? That’s rich.
All i want to see is someone really make good use to it, i want to see more excel spreadsheet or simulations made.
Simulations are nothing but mathematical models. Tactical Guidance Research and Evaluation System (TiGRES) is one of those premier institutes that carries out such simulations. Simulations are being made on a regular basis but never shared, even with people from the [US] Air Force unless they themselves are involved in either using those missiles or in MRO.
But so far none have come up with a feedback. Im the only one so far.. as far as i see making something out of that book.
You need feedback about what – the book or your calculations ?
As far as I understand it the build programme here will be split for hull, propulsion and habitation going to France and all the ‘fighty bits’ going to the US.
Interesting! This means the CMS can very well be from the US. And maybe it will be Open Architecture. IIRC, Boeing managed to integrate Harpoon missiles into German HDW submarines operated by the Indian Navy.
and there are no missiles ever, that use rocket propulsion that not run out of fuel before reaching target. Thus why we have concept of firing envelope.
I didn’t say that. I said if the missile fails to hit in the first attempt then it cannot pull of a few Gs and chase down the target again. Did you see this video? I do not have any other video handy, but the point that I am trying to make is well reflected in this video. If your missile fails to hit in its first attempt, it cannot hit that target again, ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA
I can do my maths to get what i need. If you think i rely only on publications, then you are mistaken.
Fair enough, but in that case you have to be the end user. How else can you get the variables for the equation? If you don’t mind sharing, I would like to see the math. Thanks.