Russia to sell Su 35 to Pakistan
This will probably be the second export order for the Su 35 this calendar year
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150709/1123171897.html
Кожин: Россия может поставить Пакистану истребители Су-35
МОСКВА, 9 июл — РИА Новости. Россия может поставить Пакистану, помимо нескольких единиц вертолетов Ми-35М, также истребители Су-35, сообщил помощник президента РФ Владимир Кожин.
Он отметил, что переговоры о подготовке контрактов на поставку Пакистану вертолетов Ми-35М, а также истребителей Су-35 продолжаются.
“Переговоры. Пока только переговоры”, — сказал Кожин, отвечая на вопрос, на какой стадии находится подготовка контрактов на поставку военной техники Пакистану.
При этом помощник президента РФ подчеркнул, что пока нет информации о количестве истребителей, предполагаемых к поставке.
“А вертолеты — несколько штук”, — заявил Кожин, добавив, что пока ничего не известно о сумме возможных контрактов, поскольку продолжаются переговоры.
Су-35 — российский многоцелевой сверхманевренный истребитель поколения 4++.
The title of the thread and the article and the article of the first post are not that related…
Thanks for highlighting the issue. I have corrected it.
As long as they are able to track an aircraft they are able to engage it (As long as it is within range). IR weapons may be an issue but I would guess radar guided missiles would be capable of engaging other aircraft.
If the aircraft targeted breaks downward it can force a radar guided missile to look down into clutter, while breaking into the clouds can saturate a heat seeker’s detector with background infra-red. Just a thought.
UK Defence Journal: No, the F-35 was not beaten by an F-16 by George Allison
This article should be prefaced by saying I don’t work for Lockheed Martin, BAE or any of the companies or organisations involved with the aircraft. Now that’s out of the way we can begin, the accusations of the F-35 being inferior may seem shocking at first but it should be noted that the specific F-35 involved was ‘AF-2′, this airframe is designed for flight testing, it’s designed to fly in certain restricted flight envelopes. It does not feature the majority of systems present in frontline aircraft. The aircraft, due to it being a test aircraft, had also not had the software installed that is required to use the sensors and mission systems that would be used in combat. Additionally, ‘AF-2′ does not feature the radar-absorbent material coating that operational aircraft have.
According to a recent press release from Lockheed Martin
“It [the F-35 in question] is not equipped with the weapons or software that allow the F-35 pilot to turn, aim a weapon with the helmet, and fire at an enemy without having to point the airplane at its target.”
Articles making the claim that the F-16 is superior cite tests performed earlier in the year to assess the flying qualities of the F-35 during within visual range combat and the F-16 involved was used as a visual reference to maneuver against. The aim of the test was to demonstrate the ability of the F-35 to fly to the edge of its restricted test limits without exceeding them. The test scenario was apparently successful as it allowed the aircraft be cleared for greater agility in future tests.
Test pilots say the additional maneuverability available as the aircraft expands its flight envelope after every test is a testament to the performance. According to test pilot David “Doc” Nelson.
“Pilots really like maneuverability, and the fact that the aircraft recovers so well from a departure allows us to say [to the designers of the flight control system laws], ‘you don’t have to clamp down so tight’.”
Despite the claims that the F-35 is inferior to a decades old aircraft, previous exercises tell a different story. Over the last few years there have been occasions where a flight of F-35s have engaged a flight of F-16s in simulated combat scenarios, the F-35s reportedly won each of those encounters because of its sensors and low visibility. This seems to be a case of comparing a test aircraft still in trials, that has a restricted flight envelope, against a mature dogfighter with no such restrictions.
While there are valid complaints about how the programme, the latest sensationalist headlines aren’t among them.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-the-f-35-was-not-beaten-by-an-f-16/#comments
1: At the moment of writing this post, its 01-06-2015 and thus, halfway through 2015. The first examples/prototypes of the Type-30 engine are (were?) supposedly being assembled in 2015. So are they in the progress of assembling or have they even finished building the first of the Type-30 engines?
PAK FA with the Type 30 engine will fly in 2017 according to Lenta.
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/12/04/2ndstage/
However, Pogosyan had stated that Type 30 will only be available in 2019.
This number is even greater than the average RCS of a B-52!
🙂 🙂 Your sense of humor is contagious. Thanks for the reply and for sharing the link. Best,
So no, the Russians aren’t using UFO tech on the T-50, but they are using tech even more modern than that used to design the F-35.
Jō, am not sure if you have discussed this before but will the PAK-FA depend more on RAM to reduce RCS than aerodynamic shaping? Thank You.
United Aircraft Corporation starts to supply the initial batch of fifth generation fighter T-50 (PAK FA)
They are getting into production mode even before Izdeliye 30 is ready. So, they will stick with 117.
Algeria is the first customer for the Mi-26T2, which does exactly that.
But the MI-26T2 was offered to India as well, but Chinook won that competition. IIRC, the Indian Air Force had said that Chinook emerged as the lowest bidder based on life cycle costs.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1120050.html
More pics of the first Algerian bird.
Nice! Thanks for sharing the pics.
If MiL has to win tenders in those countries where they will face stiff competition from US, Chinese and European manufacturers they will have to work to reduce the cost of operation of the Mi-26. They also need to work on the EW system on board.
This means the [S-]duct design may have to be slightly revised in shape and length with a recalibrated guide vane structure (downstream of the bend). Though I’d expect these ‘updates’ to be relatively straightforward.
Changes in Cg due to the Type 30 being significantly lighter will most likely be addressed by FCS software patches.
Jō, will the same type of RAM be used in the PAK-FA, wherever RAM treatment is required?
For example, will the RAM used in the wing be different from the RAM used in the fuselage or will it be the same?
IIRC, RAM is chosen based on the surface where it will be used. So, fin leading edges, rudder trailing edge, wing leading edges,wingtip DASS/ECM pods will receive the same RAM because they are made from the same Lithium-Aluminium alloy. Other parts of the aircraft that are made from other alloys will need a different RAM.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too. Thanks.
‘Integrated avionics suite‘ for the PAK-FA:
Thanks Jō, just one more question. UAC stated that the first test flight of Type 30 engine will take place in 2017
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/12/04/2ndstage/
Don’t you think that the engine development process is making slow progress? Thanks again.
Logic would dictate that a new static tester for ‘second stage prototypes’ (and a gap of nearly 2 years from the first flight of T-50-5), would be strongly indicative of something other than:
Jō, has Sukhoi/UAC released any information about the sensor and data-fusion capabilities of the PAK-FA? In other words, can the PAK-FA achieve the same degree of data fusion and networking capabilities of the F-22A and F-35?
Sensor and Data Fusion is an area where the US has traditionally maintained a lead over Russia.
T-50-6 is still being worked on… No delivery this year.
Naturally, 117 is still work in progress.
For reasons known best to Pratt & Whitney from the very onset they were never willing to discuss the problems the F-135 engine was facing. The recent fire was caused by a fan blade rubbing against the engine cowling. Why was this very glaring issue not identified earlier? I mean the F-35 has flown a number of test flights so far.
This is apart from the oil flow management valve problem that P&W has still not managed to fix.
Roughly 17% of the program’s acquisition cost is for the engines, which are being purchased by the DoD under a contract separate from the airframe part of the program. During the initial presentation of the F-135 engine P& W had stated that the F-135 is a more evolved version of the F-22 powerplant but at the same price.