The R&D results for those GaN PAs were signed off on 20/04/13.
So maybe now they are probably fine tuning the LTCC tape usage . During the firing process, the LTCC tape will shrink between 12% – 16% + 0.2% in the X and Y-axis and 15%-25%+0.5% in the Z-axis . Assuming balanced metal loading and good process control, the shrinkage should be consistent. However, with certain systems, there maybe a narrow processing window in which the fabrication must take place.
Ahem, aren’t israeli installing some of their own stuff on it? Or do they still pay for the complete plane?
Some critical EW components are being manufactured by Rafale for the Israeli version .
Why did Europe build it’s own birds while they could have purchased F-18 and F-15 ? Same reason.
But Europe did not have a JV with US or any other country to jointly design an aircraft . That’s why they went in for Typhoon , Rafale and Gripen .
However, India is jointly producing the PAK FA with Russia . Chances are that it will be tailor made to India’ specifications . So why the need for a Advanced-Medium-Combat-Aircraft ?
So , are there any functions that the PAK FA cannot perform for which India needs a Advanced-Medium-Combat-Aircraft ?
If a Advanced-Medium-Combat-Aircraft can be made available by 2018 , does India still need the LCA MK2 ?
Here in the US , USAF will have the F 35 that will replace the F 16 and X 47 B UCAV will replace the F 18 Super Hornet AND there will be a 6th gen aircraft that will be inducted towards the turn of the decade . So basically we will have just 3 types of aircrafts .
India may have it’s own operational doctrine and there is no right or wrong in this but somehow the logic of having a Advanced-Medium-Combat-Aircraft , PAK FA , LCA MK2 , Rafale escape me .
Of note- the map that appears to show Bangalore, India is titled: ‘Joint research on the electronic model’ and the model of a new ramjet missile (in black):
Jō , can you please elaborate this . I was of the opinion that Indians don’t have much of an input on the R & D part .
It is a 3D TSV production facility after all, and the wholesale importing of capital tooling and foreign training of employees is not so they can laze about for “the next 20-30 years”. Imho, true serial machines will not commence production until 2017 and will utilise something like this (℅ Wingex)
This is lateral thinking in it’s most pristine form . 3D TSV technology offers greater space efficiencies and higher interconnect densities than wire bonding and flip chip stacking. When combined with microbump bonding and advanced flip chip technology, TSV technology enables a higher level of functional integration and performance in a smaller form factor.
The only doubt I have is that before a 3D TSV production facility can be established you need to invest in back-end of line (BEOL) manufacturing capabilities for 2.5D . 3D is therefore an augmentation .
This is a classic example of the novel ways that Defense Contractors come up with in this country to waste tax payers $$ .
All these years we were told that STEALTH is the holy grail of penetrating enemy defenses .
Eventually , the Pentagon & Defense Contractors have realized that this is no longer the case due to the proliferation of counter stealth technology ( primarily Russian) the world over .
Now , we are being told that HYPERSONIC speed is the counter to counter stealth .
I hope realization draws on these individuals that the S 300V and S 400 already have the capability of firing hypersonic surface to air missiles that can travel a lot faster than the SR 72 .
Might be mistaken, but wasn’t there news recently that the yanks forbid the israelis to export the EL/M-2052 to India? Here’s what i found:
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/israel-bars-aesa-radar-export-to-india-351666/
That was before the result of the MMRCA competition was disclosed . We were the only country offering an MMRCA with AESA . Needless to say that had SAAB purchased AESA from Israel and integrated it in their fighters LM & Boeing would had to face more stiff competition .
Btw, Respect is an extremely rare commodity and as such is hard earned. Contempt is available in abundance and can be doled out in generous portions. You’re submerged in the latter for reasons entirely of your own making.
x2 . Couldn’t agree more.
It will be Expanded to Rafale and MiG 29K ..Sometimes in P8I too
I suspect the (mini) BRAHMOS air launched missile would be too large for the Rafale . Re P8I it will already have the Harpoon .
Also keep in mind that the FGFA export version is not the same thing as PAKFA it might have similar airframe but the radars,ecm and other classified tech is removed and will be replaced with something else.
Seems the UAC Boss doesn’t share your enthusiasm about the export version . They are selling the same aircraft to India
:stupid:Lol that is the funniest thing I head this month,a vertical takeoff version of a large 2 engine Su 27 sized fighter that weighs around 40,000lb,I whould like to see your design proposal for it
Laughter is the best medicine , but if you laugh for no reason , you need medicine.
If designing VTOL aircraft was easy there would have been a dozen VTOL aircrafts doing the round today . I accept there are challenges .Vertical thrust engines need to be balanced to allow the aircraft to take off vertically.The plane will lift only if the thrust-to-weight ratio is above 1 . Thus with a full fuel and weapons load, the plane is too heavy to lift. But the benefits are hard to argue with .
The main advantage of VTOL aircraft is closer basing to the enemy, which reduces response time and tanker support requirements. During the Falklands War, Harrier jets permitted high performance fighter air cover and ground attack without a large aircraft carrier equipped with a catapult.
Whatever you’ve smoked, I want some too.
Aren’t you drinking kool aid enough ?
Ideally Sukhoi should have focused on a Vertical Take Off version of the PAK FA which could have been used from the Mistral LPH . But for reasons known best to Sukhoi they chose to ignore it .
I know it might be a year or more away, but best to wait for T-50-07 to break cover with its “significant external differences in appearance”- compared to the early prototypes, (’56’ will most likely be kept under wraps), not to mention the 3 prototypes to be delivered to India. Note the term ‘delivery’ and not ‘local assembly’.
Yes, let’s wait and watch .
I will add a disclaimer here . I only trust the Indian press as far as I can throw them but what caught my attention is the first prototypes of the Indian version of the PAKFA will be send to India not before 2018 for testing .
This is probably an indication that there will be changes ( minor if not significant) to the airframe . Had the airframe remained the same Sukhoi would have send the prototypes to India this year or at least by next year .
Also, having digested the data in the other links regarding SWNT composite RAM, do you think this (worst case) -20dB can be achieved by a Polymer Matrix Composite laminate no more than 2mm (that’s two millimetres) thickness?
Jō , is there a possibility that enhanced LO features are meant for the Indian FGFA and not the Russian PAKFA ?
I have read a couple of Press releases that HAL came up with basically says that the Indian FGFA will be “more stealthy” than the Russian version , primarily because the Russians are more interested in having a super manoeuvrable aircraft , whereas the Indians are willing to compromise on manoeuvrability to make their aircraft more stealthy .