Apparently the Indians were willing to go for the non-existing AESA in the Eurofighter over the underperforming AESA in the MiG-35.
Or maybe the AESA(s) had nothing to do with it? :confused:
The $65M is the average Unit Recurring Flyaway price reported in FY2010 USD over the lifetime of FRP. They key to achieving that price has more to do with keeping the annual build rates up and less to do with the total build numbers.
Yeah. So what, the assumption now is that after ‘the troubles’ with JSF have passed the ‘troubles’ with DoD budgeting will also have passed (despite CBO projections showing the overall budget picture continuing to deteriorate) allowing US demand to drive maximum-rate production, from which Italy will be allowed to sip a jet here and there to service its own requirements? That is also what I would call ‘wildly optimistic’.
Who (and where) said “no more expensive than Super Hornet”?
Well that’s about what “$65m for F-35A” translates to, isn’t it?
I’ve been to Moscow a few times.. Hated it there. its expensive.
Kazan, Yakutsk, and Ufa on the other hand are very friendly. Maybe because its a diverse city. In Yakutsk whites are a minority.
I … received a package from St. Petersburg once.
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Lockheed Martin estimates 65M USD for the F-35A and about 73M USD for the F-35B
C’mon, Spud, you don’t believe that. Even the Pentagon doesn’t believe that anymore. The guy is quoting from those 3000-aircraft-production-line charts that’ve been dead and buried five times over now. That he’s still pushing them to the Italian parliament … well, it does kinda explain how they ended up where they are. 😉
“No more expensive than Typhoon” is something I could buy given the legendary inefficiency of that program. But “no more expensive than Super Hornet” is just fantasy.
Invented it didn’t they?
I was thinking of more recent trends, heh. Seriously tho, that their ‘acquisition chief’ is still quoting LockMark PowerPoint presentations verbatim is pretty scary.
I think it was that if the difference was less than 5% they had the option to go with non-L1 based on performance/other criteria.
And of course we all know what masters of accounting the Italians are. :rolleyes:
the swiss government made its choice recognising they did not take the best but the cheapest offer, which, in itself negates the very rules they appeared to be applying.
Only if one has an unreasonably narrow view of what is ‘best’.
The ones under construction have the same canopy as previous airframes, so much for the rumor of single piece transparency.
lolwtf … real unlikely that one given role and flight profile.
When they mean replacing the f-15s , do they mean the A-Ds models aswell?
Thought the raptor was supposed to do that or will it be the FAXX Or NGAD?
F-22 has replaced F-15A/B.
F-15C/D was intended to be phased out by 2020 but on account of F-22 truncation and F-35 woes is instead being upgraded and refurbished.
F-15E will not begin phase-out until late 2020s.
The Brazilians are using re-engined C-1s for aerial refueling, so yeah, I’m sure it ‘could’ be done with the C-2.

Ok that looks worse, lol.
Ugly. Typhoon with CFTs looks much better.
If it isn’t shiny black with turquoise underbody I’m not interested.
It doesn’t have to do with me and what I believe. There is only one operational 5th gen aircraft at the moment and for several years to come, and frankly, it takes lots of fantasy to call it “jack of all trades, master of none”.
Ditto PAK FA.