ToT opportunities relating to F414 are almost certainly very limited; this has little bearing on the merit of the selection for the simple reason that nobody else would’ve been offering significant engine ToT either. We don’t hear of M88 ToT associated with MMRCA, do we?
This notion that there is some conspiracy at work on the part of SAAB to conceal the true extent of ToT, production and development opportunities available to Brazil is absurd, not least of all because it requires Brazil to be as dumb as a bag of rocks.
Sweden must have a partner moving forward, and Saab must have a “second home” in order to stay in the fighter jet business. Sweden is too small to host future fighter jets develeopment.
Thus from day 1 Brazil is concidered not a customer but a partner. I think both Sweden/Saab and Brazil considers this very much a “win-win”. The alternative for Sweden would have been to accept to leave the fighter business in the not too distant future; now they can keep significant portions of the business in Sweden.
This is my take on things too. Dassault, Boeing and SAAB all wanted the contract, but SAAB wanted it the most, because they needed it the most.
The 10-metre dome specified is larger than that on the E-3 and A-50 (both 9-metres) — I don’t imagine that a 737 or smaller aircraft is up to the task. Seems to me this is a contest between 767, A330, and Il-76MD-90A. The latter would build on commonalities with existing Phalcon AEW (incl. PS-90 engines) and from having an AEW conversion already on-hand/funded, whereas A330 would build on the tanker contract which is expected to be signed shortly and offer superior lifecycle costs. 767 would undoubtedly be competitive in isolation — perhaps even favoured given combination of low life-cycle costs and previous AEW conversion — but would add yet another platform to IAF’s menagerie…
I agree with you. Saab does not own the intellectual property rights to 100% of Gripen and has no ability to give away the IP owned by another. USG and GE own the IP rights to the basic F414 from which the “G” is derived and Selex likely owns the IP rights to ES-05.
Boy is Brazil going to be shocked to discover that Saab doesn’t own F414. That will teach them not to sign off on proposals written on the back of a paper napkin — at least not without checking Wikipedia first.
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A little bit of perspective is required here, I think.
But whose perspective? You have the Baltic states which are understandably very concerned about recent developments, linked to a great power with almost no sense of perspective on anything, via institutions populated by a generation of folks who’ve never had to deal with the Big Questions that are their ostensible mandate, linked to national politicians of whom can be said the same. It’s all well and good to prescribe a dose of ‘perspective’ — alternatively one could observe that these are fertile soils for the outbreak of war.
a joint fighter force based in another country
lol, I suppose that’s one way to avoid having your entire Air Force obliterated by a storm of Russian TBMs on Day 1.
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Outstanding. :applause:
Speaking of old and venerable aircrafts: isn’t it overdue to grant retirement to the Il38’s family?
Il-38 is currently being upgraded with ‘Novella’ system extending the ‘Sea Dragon’ upgrade for Indian Il-38s, so not going anywhere soon. MS-21 will probably be the airliner platform of choice by the time a replacement is due.
So, as per the article above, there will indeed be an upcoming lease of Gripen C/D for Brazil in the interim.
This is a point that make me dubious : on one hand, Gripen E is advertised as a risk-less mature technology nearly completed, on the other hand, a big share of the dev is proposed to Brazil and Switzerland…
I expect that the 40% figure refers to “of remaining and future development work” rather than from program inception. The development work they are speaking of probably includes Gripen F, integration of Brazilian weapons, and perhaps Sea Gripen also.
Based on my extensive personal experience of being strafed by MiG-29s, I conclude that this footage is indeed real.
The non-afterburning F135 is comparable to dual F414, but half the parts
It’s also enormous, and in the context of a flying wing layout all but guarantees that you have to go for split bays on either side of the engine, which is a less efficient and flexible payload solution compared to a single large bay located forward of the engines.
Also I am surprised to hear this criticism given that you seem to be fond of suggesting twin F125s (rather than F404/414/M88/EJ200) in various hypothetical designs!
Since Navy wants their UAVs quickly, they cannot wait 6-7 years for a mil-spec high bypass ratio engine to be developed and must use a COTS engine from a business jet or small airliner with a bypass ratio of approximately 5::1.
Snecma Silvercrest is currently being developed in this class.
Super Hornet was — or should’ve — always been doomed from the fact that it is simply too much aircraft, that its strengths are not particularly relevant in the Swiss context, and that its weaknesses are.
NATO and the US badly want Ukraine within their sphere of influence.
Yet are pretty powerless to stop the Russian’s taking Crimea (outside a few meaningless sanctions).
NATO’s recent display of impotence is of its own making. Here we have a collection of politicians, strategists, etc. who seriously imagined that they could walk the American Empire right up to Russia’s doorstep and get away with it.
Notions of ‘international law’ or ‘justice’ have nothing to do with it — it’s like the Cuban Missile Crisis, where the Soviet Union and Cuba were perfectly within their legal rights to pursue the actions they did, but the Americans went off the hook anyway, because they simply could not tolerate the intrusion of another Great Power so close to home.
America responded as it did during the Cuban Missile Crisis because it could, and this is precisely why Russia is doing so now. The sleepwalking politicians and flunkeys at NATO have seemingly missed the re-emergence of Russia as a major power over this past decade, and refused to acknowledge what that portends for the generational American project of intruding on Russia’s sphere of influence. They previously got away with it only because Russia was too weak to do anything about it. The fact that this situation in Ukraine has occurred despite the numerous warnings and metaphorical ‘lines in the sand’ Russia has drawn these past few years — most blatantly the 2008 conflict with Georgia — should be troubling for anyone concerned about the stability of Great Power relations in the 21st century.
People wonder why it is that I am concerned about the possibility of a major conflict between the United States and China and what that would portend for my own nation — this is why. It’s not naked Chinese aggression I’m worried about, but the United States in the context of its relations with Asia’s lesser powers and their relations with China; the myopia which it has demonstrated over and over and over again transplanted to a new and dangerous era.
Another, not totally unrelated point – good luck getting Iran and North Korea to abandon nukes now, Ukraine did it under international “guarantees” of security in the 90s, where are those guarantees now?]
I suppose these “guarantees” would be like the ones offered to Gorbachev by the United States that NATO would not move eastward. Russia certainly learned its lesson from that: only strength can keep the Americans in check.
In any case, I don’t see the relevance. Iran and North Korea are worried about American aggression; in that context American ‘guarantees’ are just about irrelevant unless also accompanied by a willingness of e.g. Russia or China or Europe to intervene on their behalf, something that is, needless to say, not about to happen.
Not sure where to put this really, but it occurs to me that a triangular arrangement between SAAB, Brazil, and Turkey would have a lot going for it, and moreover seems quite plausible given the SAAB-Brazil, SAAB-Turkey, and Turkey-Brazil relationships already established. Could this nexus serve each partner’s interests and present the world with another 5+ generation combat aircraft?
Seems to me the most likely alternative is ‘nothing’. Although with Brazil now in it for the long haul, Switzerland could well try again — that is to say, try for Gripen E/F again — next decade.
If it was F-14 size then it would need two F110’s or F100’s. Current plans publicized to date involve no more than a twin F404 powered version.
Dual non-afterburning F414 should suffice for a subsonic, unmanned, F-14-sized aircraft. F414 already produces 90% of TF30’s dry thrust rating whilst weighing some 600kg less (each), and that’s without investing in EPE…
UCLASS Could Be Used as Tanker for Carrier Air Wing
http://news.usni.org/2014/04/01/uclass-used-tanker-carrier-air-wing
That’s necessarily going to involve a rather large aircraft…