‘Nuclear sharing’ is an intrinsic element of the non-proliferation regime. It is essentially a bribe from Washington to the recipient states so that they do not feel compelled to develop nuclear weapons of their own accord.
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Duck and Cover. 😮
However, where did you heard that the SE would have had less range and less payload?
The IWBs were to replace the existing CFTs, reducing range.
Saab starts thinking about future fighter, together with Brazil
I forsee a long and prosperous relationship.
3 ton aircraft with 16 ton payload, Swedish engineering is astonishing. 😉
I think it has been established that the thrust vectoring capabilities of Su-30MKI, Su-30SM, Su-35 and T-50 can reasonably and accurately be referred to as ‘3D’. The only difficulty with using the term, as opposed to ‘2.5D’, is that it leaves us no convenient way to distinguish between this style of thrust vectoring and that featured on MiG-29OVT.
Nimitz size class evolved precisely to fight a WW.
Yeah but that wasn’t the question. It was “would you rather have one larger carrier or two smaller ones?”
I’d prefer a nimitz over two kuznetsovs.
Well, if your primary mission set is attacking third-world nations at leisure, I suppose it doesn’t matter that you won’t have a deployable carrier most of the time.
If you’re concerned about potentially having to fight a War with a capital ‘W’, on the other hand…
I would love to see an internal W-bay on the Su-34M 🙂
Why? T-50 already has that. The reason Su-34 will continue to be desirable after T-50 enters service is because it can haul a truckload of stuff and there are a variety of missions for which VLO isn’t particularly advantageous (including the Growler role I alluded to earlier). Limiting payload capacity and flexibility via an internal weapons bay would be a step backwards, or at least an expensive step sideways.
Same reason I always thought F-15SE was a fool’s errand, incidentally. Or at least the IWB’s that were the centrepiece of the proposal: “let’s take an aircraft whose chief distinguishing characteristics are range and payload and take away range and payload.”
By 2017 however there should be about 95. Assuming rate of 20/year starting from next year, whole contract will be completed by the middle of 2018.
Any idea how many units RuAF is looking at in total? I assume that Su-34 production will continue post T-50 and that this is where Su-34M rumours fit in.
“Greed” has nothing to do with weapon system development. The development contract specifically defines the percentage of profit. For a Pentagon program, profit is typically 7-8% during development and 10-12 % for sustaining engineering after the production line closes and jets are in the field.
Socialism. 😮
XB-70 really was an astonishingly graceful bird. Makes B-58 look a real ugly duckling in that pic.
But this isn’t what the Fighter Mafia advocates for. The FM supports lightweight designs with minimal tech/sensors, very low cost, and only short range weapons.
Yeah, umm, that might’ve been the case fifty years ago, but it’s not an accurate characterisation of those who’re suspicious of the recent attitude of many Americans that speed and agility are irrelevant*. The proposed alternatives to F-35 are not F-16A but rather a variety of solutions according to customer requirements and circumstances, ranging from Gripen E/F to evolved Rafale/Typhoon/Super Hornet to medium-weight VLO designs that haven’t had their performance compromised by extraneous requirements (J-31, AMCA, KF-X) to UCAVs and F-22E!
The truth is, nobody is going to follow the path laid down by F-35: not the Russians, Chinese, Europeans, Indians, Japanese, Turks, or Koreans. F-35 is a very strange aircraft emerging from a unique set of circumstances the United States found itself in in the mid-1990s and the assumptions that followed from that — assumptions that don’t, as it turns out, actually bear much relation to the world the aircraft will find itself operating in. Decades from now, we’ll look back at the variety of manned VLO platforms in service and F-35 will stick out like a sore thumb.
But hey, it’ll do wonders against Iran.
* An attitude that we can expect to vanish as soon as the F/A-XX requirements firm up, much as it vanishes today whenever the F-22 is conjured from the ether.
For that reason, if none other, then I’d just hope that, seeing this is a defence forum, there is still room to discuss purely technical and tactical issues in the abstract?.
Sure. The potential for real-world conflict obviously underpins just about everything that is discussed on the board, but for the most part matters are discussed in the abstract. For example, we might discuss Vietnam’s interests in the South China Sea and the capabilities and doctrines best suited to pursue them in the context of other nations and their capabilities. It is rare that we see a discussion along the lines of “China vs. Japan LET’S FIGHT!!!” and thankfully so. I think we should be very careful when discussion trends at all in the direction of, if you will forgive the blunt characterisation, volunteering other people to die. Perhaps the distinction is a blurry one that I have not comprehended or articulated well, but I do think it exists and should be respected.
There is a reason why Turkish Navy is deploying to Black Sea; Back in the day, when Ottoman empire lost Crimea to Russian Empire, the Kaynarca treaty (which granted independence of Crimea Khanate from Ottoman Empire) and the following treaty signed in April 9 1783 when Crimean Khanate….
Thanks for this and other informative posts.
MiG-23s are gone. MiG-25s and Canberras went last decade too.
MiG-21, Harrier, and MiG-27 next on the chopping block. Some MiG-21 variants gone already.