legolasI dont know man, If france will allow qatar to sell Apache’s to India, but laying hands on the Apache’s would be sweet. better than the 2000-5 itself. Infact an upgraded Mirage-2000H can equal a 2000-5. But nothing currently in IAF’s arsenal equals the Apache. India should go ahead and buy the stocks of MICA and Apache’s. but Qatar also probably has enough stocks for 12 fighters only.
If the original MIrage-2000’s are upgraded then we will have to buy from MDBA. about 62 Mirage-2000-5 should be a sweet fleet. I dont think the 124 fighter deal will materialise any soon.
legolasThats pretty fast, i would like to hear the specifics like will qatar also transfer its stocks of MICA. I think Qatar also fields the MICA-IR with the normal MICA. What uses will it have for MICA and other ASM’s. What ASM’s does Qatar field with M2K-5. What will it do with all the stuff without the platforms
legolasAll the great planes are going out, first the F-14, now the Mig-25. Now all will be left are spooky looking Planes like the F-22, And other Fifth generation planes, and in a few years pilots will also go out. what all will be left are the big spooky wings flying around.
legolasF-14 all the way. Even if somebody compares a F-22 with F-14 i will go for the F-14. WHo ever designed the tomcat, He is great, the pilots who fly the tomcat are lucky SOB’s and I have been lucky enough to touch it once.
legolasno bloody blowed up hornet can replace the F-14. I hate that fighters. You get no kick out of that. Nobody in this board will ever fly a hornet or tomcat or a flanker. we can just compare the performance and stuff. nothiing more
legolasHarry the missile is a Sea eagle i suppose. You see the slight strip on the sides. It is typical to sea eagle. Sea eagle looks a lot like martel
legolasThat is a Damn Tomahawk. This video is shown so many times in discovery.
The chinese have many imaginary weapons under deployment in sites around the net. They are all virtual weapons. part of the matrix and neo is coming. Somebody please save me.
legolasI say India dont spend your money on Any F-16 or F-18 just acquire some 40 French ones or Swedish gripens. Spend the remaining on Infrastructure and building better industries. With the rate of Increase India is going through in about 5 or 6 years it will be able to buy any damn plane it wants and that too in any quantity.It can probably afford to Build its own superfighters
legolasIt is a Mig-27. I am saying from the nose and the angle at which the swept back wings are set
legolasSimilarly anyone who claims naval stealth to be solely a function of RCS needs to expand their frame of reference!. Just because it looks ‘stealthy’ doesn’t make it so!.
I’ll try and explain this in terms that wont get me in trouble. The Lafayette designers painstakingly reduced radar reflectivity of their vessel and did an admirable job of it. Their mistake though was to leave the radar profile of the hull unaltered. To a radar seeker the Lafayette profile, despite issuing a weaker return, looks undeniably like a ship – low bit on the bows, high bit, lowish bit amidships, high bit over the hangar and low again over the pad. If you can disturb or adjust this pattern though you can confuse a seeker as to your true aspect and, within a few ship lengths, your position.
So on one hand we have a medium RCS design with additional tweaks and, possibly, the quietest ‘stealthiest’ propulsion fit of any current escort OR a slightly-compromised lo-RCS design that chugs along merrily on its diesels?. I know which vessel I think is overall the more ‘stealthy’ though I may need to ‘sort myself out’ because of it!. :rolleyes:
Jonesy,
I would beg to differ with you on this point. I agree that stealth is not only dependent on RCS and its reduction. Submarines try to maintain Acoustic silence to a great extent and there are several factors contributing to stealth.
The Accoustic profile of the Type-23 may be lesser than Lafayette, but it is not that small. Both are probably comparable. But the RCS reduction is far smaller in Type-23. You have the Big Hapoon launchers on the front. All the Domes on the side even present a big RCS on the sides.
You specifically said that during an ARH missile attack you would prefer to be on type-23. I did not understand what you meant by that.
Type-23 may be a good solid frigate unlike the Type-22 but i dont feel it is as good as a lafayette in any way. Any way it does’nt matter any good fighter with a good radar can detect a frigate at around atleast 100km and launch its
missiles at around 70Km. With all the big emmiters i dont think any ship is 100% stealthy.
legolasI doubt Iran was ever pro-USSR. After the revolution they had to turn to the small satan for weapons. That doesn’t necessarily mean they buddied up.
Why does everybody call USSR the IRon curtain the satan etc. Please count the number of persons killed by a country and i am sure everybody knows which country will be on top. The list of killers. Every nation has killed people, its own and others. One should try to make a list. It should not matter if the nation killed them in a war or by mistake bombed an other countries embassy on blowm a Civilian plane or killed its own citizens. Can anybody make a Guess 😡 😡 😡
legolasBoring
It is pure lunacy.
legolasThere is a long way between this and India having them (integrated). At that time Pak will have enough Chinese versions to do the same. But it is not the question what Pak does. Pak is not reall affraid. It was outnumbered by 5 and has been there for more then once on its own. It reacted with same nuclear tests within weeks. That was a shock to the well informed nations including the neighbour. It is the question whether India will accept risks when trading with the US. Will it get source codes? And last but not least… Will it share (Russian) info with the US? Will Russia accept this? What does it say about India’s capability to produce inhouse? I think that part will be more important the any neighbour. About India being big and well armed. Well it is doing pretty good.
I know pak is not afraid as it has got re-painted M-11 and M-9’s and Dongs from Korea. There is a real slim chance of India engaging Pak in a full-scale war. In the modern world there are no permanent loyalties and no country will keep on wagging its tail for ever.
Is pakistan not buyiing from US, does China has any objections and is it ready to sell to India.
legolasHere we go again…same old rhetoric, lets just remember who started all this!
A bunch of hate filled fanatics, taught by lying hate filled zelots, flying civilian aircraft into buildings that contained more civilians, going about there daily lives, trying to feed there familys.
LGBs,tomahawk cruise missiles, or a 5.56mm round….is nothing compared to the cowardice of the people who carried ot that attack.
And the spineless wimps who financed it, when confronted with the great satan on the ground,ran for the caves!Occupy??????? The iraqis just had a free election, where else in the middle east do you get that? Oh yes…Israel.
Saudi, syria, iran?? No chance,there to scared of their own people to trust them with a ballot….is that why you murder and torture your citizens?
Its quite easy for these people to blame everything on the west,it suits there tiny minds, and poisens the minds of the populations in thier countrys, whom most are starving and destitute!
To take a lecture from these people??????????? :diablo:
If one wants to find who started this. We have to go a long way back. Americans supported Muslim Fandamentalism to defeat Soviet Empire. We get back what we sow. LAW of KARMA. They themselves got some of the Fruits.
I know Saudi arabia and Kuwait have no chances of conducting elections. I was asking why does US support Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, regimes who Oppress thier Women, Impose Fundamentalistic Ideas on thier People, while the 1000 princes spend 40000 Odd dollars a day in US and Europe. Why the Double play. Becuase Saudi’s sell Oil and remain loyal to US and US will be blind to the atrocities conducted by these guys in thier countries.
I Know that 9/11 was a atrocious act, but are lifes of 40,000 afghans worth nothing. out of 40,000 about an estimated 30000 are women and children who have wielded no guns. See when the surviving children grow up, they will
themselves will be full of hatred towards US and you will have to face the next generation. What ever you do they will never be positive towards US.
Changing a Country by force is not gonna work. If Iran falls because of a revolution by its own people influenced by democratic principles against its Mullah regime, that will be more legitimate and durable.
legolasBloody Hell guys!!!!!!!!! How the hell has this progressed to a US invasion of Russia?
Me thinks, there is a complete load of pro Islam Garbage on here.
Lets make some easy Points.
It is not the US starving, raping, and killing thier way through Darfar
It is not the US that is occupying sovreign Lebanese territory
It is not the US that straps C4 upon woman and children, and detonate themselves on buses and shopping precincts
It is not the US who violate christain minorities in Nigeria and Indonesia.
It is not the US that has a electoral system imposed by wealthy rulers
It is not the US that flys civilian Airliners into buildings
It is not the US that persicutes the right of their female citizens
It is not the US that stone people to death
It is not the US Kidnapping people and making prime time tv out of their executions
It is not the US that teaches nothing but hatred towards non muslims in schools the Nazis would be proud of.Im on a roll here lol 😀
If it were not for the US and ourselves, what kind of flea biteen, dust ridden, clapped out hell hole, would you guys be living in?????????
By the way, if it was not for the US economy, that imports your bloddy oil, where would you be??
Sorry, but these may be the rantings of a lunatic, but are they not true? Now can we please get back on track lol :diablo:
Ya I know America does none of the above. But America does the following
1) bomb people with LGB’s. God knows what are the Iraqi civilian casualties due to American bombing.
2)America has the largest amount of forces on foreign lands than any other countries.
3)Support Oppresive military and monarchies in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. Who are thier supporters. they are not democracies.
4)Iraq was one of the developed countries in Arab world before US invasion. Now it looks like a desert.
5) US does not stone people to death. It just bombs with costly LGB’s. what a princely way of dying.
6)Supports a lot of countries who occupy others lands and for each Human Bomb the American supported country just rolls a tanks and kills some rock throwing kids and who the hell cares they are not americans or even Europeans.
7)American is not occupying lebanon. Who is in Iraq and Afghanistan. ?
8) if 2300 hundred people died in twin towers, out of them 400 indians, 200 odd chinese and the result was 40,000 afghans dead and 1,00,000 Iraqis dead
9)If not for that Oil, How will the Interstates move at 75Mph.
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