legolasI think Su-30 has a still long way to go in its evolvement process. Even with Six R-77’s 4- R-73’s and 12 Fab-250’s the Su-30MKI looks empty. I think only a load out of 4 brahmos will make it make it a bit loaded.
legolasSugar Sugar
Please The 052 does not have Aegis it probably has a phased array located in a same position as a Aegis. Aegis is the name of the radar system. We dont know anything about this chinese system.
legolasWhen it comes to Argentina and Vietnam, you better wrote claimed victories.
How about some A/A from FAA in 1982 for example?! “We all know best… ” :confused:
Using strong words are never a substitute for good examples. How about to show some of your findings?! :rolleyes:Why not to travel to Israel and visit yourself the memorials at the grave-yards.
All is listed there, name by name and date by date.
Air warfare analyst look into statistics too. The ratios of killed/wounded and lost/damaged did not vary much for a period/war.
Even the accident/loss numbers in peace-time for every type of aircraft is known.
When the Israeli numbers have been wrong really. A lot of people/experts/countries would have shown this with striking examples. :p
I dont have any objections in saying that Israel pilots are good. I dont know about Arab pilots but I consider the vietnamese pilots great. Considering the size of the monster AF they were facing and the technology US was using, Thier efforts were great and victories were great.
US has less number of ACes than Vietnam. These vietnamese Aces have also been accepted by the Americans. If we do a google one can find a lot on these Guys.
legolasi except the DF-41 to be miles away from any Russian ICBM”s, please dont compare it with SS-19 and topol-m’s
legolasjust read Tom Clancy book “Executive Orders” and you will find out what will happen with Japan ……..
Please quote about anybdoy not from Tom Clancy. That guys books are worse to believe than a James bond movie and i think the book in which japan gets SS-19’s and india invades Srilanka is Sum of All fears. What a joke sorry book
legolashttp://news.ft.com/cms/s/37c2003c-7565-11d9-9608-00000e2511c8.html
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Iran and China linked to Ukraine missiles
By Tom Warner in Kiev
Published: February 2 2005 22:01 | Last updated: February 2 2005 22:01An investigation by the Ukrainian secret police has found that Iran and China bought long-range missiles designed to carry nuclear warheads from Ukraine, one of the country’s politicians said on Wednesday.
Grigory Omelchenko, an ally of the country’s new leadership and a former head of the anti-mafia committee in the Ukrainian parliament, claimed on Wednesday that Ukraine’s SBU secret police had found that 12 Kh-55s were illegally exported in 1999-2001. He said six of the air-to-ground cruise missiles were sold to Iran, and six to China.
The Kh-55 – which the US calls the AS-15 – has a highly accurate guidance system and a range of up to 3,000km, which would put Israel in striking distance of Iran. The missile was part of the Soviet bomber fleet weaponry left behind in Ukraine.
The allegations, made in Ukraine’s parliament yesterday, bolster claims by the US and other governments that Iran is seeking to develop the ability to produce nuclear weapons. They also raise concerns about Iran and China’s efforts to improve long-range missile technology.
Mr Omelchenko, a one-time SBU officer, said that last year the SBU prevented an attempt to export 14 Kh-55s and arrested a former SBU officer, who is being tried in Kiev’s Regional Appeals Court.
He accused high-ranking officials linked to Leonid Kuchma, the former president, of covering up the SBU’s findings about the sale to protect a “highly placed person from the circle of President Kuchma, who was involved in the illegal arms sales”.
Last November, Colin Powell, former US Secretary of State, said he ha d seen intelligence that Iran was working to adapt missiles to deliver a nuclear weapon.
In September the US slapped sanctions on a private Ukrainian company for violating a US ban on proliferation to Iran, without specifying what it was suspected of selling.
OK Distiller,
Even if Iran got its hands on some KH-55’s how is it gonna launch them. They are ASM’s carried by Bombers. Iran will lauch Kh-55, Syria Probably can
launch SS-18 acquired through some other ex-soviet state.
legolasI say the best poiunt defence fighter ever produced was the F-16A. Simple plane, good Acceleration, 4 Aim-9L’s what more can you ask for. Can use as a point defence fighter and as a limited range bomber. US was able to produce 1600. A little larger than a Mig-21 or an FC-1 comparable to an F-CK-1, but can kick the butt of a few Mig-21 or F-7’s.
legolasJapan has good quantities of Uranium and all associated bells and whistles. I dont think Japan will have much difficulty in building nukes. building AMRAAMS and similar missiles dont need a huge heavy industry. For Bombers and fighters you probably need such a huge industrial complex. Even then Japan has all the necessary Tech to produce such stuff and in an emergency countries will go to any extent to build weapons
legolasThe Japanese don’t have any active AAM in service as they have not made clear the status of their AAM-4. A Hornet can carry loads of AMRAAM. The Japanese air force will be wiped out soon enough. Also, Japan does not have a lot of places to hide. Once your air force is wiped out, the navy goes next.
Japan loses, but not without a good fight and inflicting some significant casualties.
Having or not having a Active AAM is not gonne matter much. Japanese in an emergency can field probably an Active AAM in a few months. Americans also fielded the Amraam in a few months during the first gulf war. The major problem for Americans will be the japanese industrial might. If required Japanese can Build upto a few hundred Nukes in a few days. Japanese can come up with huge amounts of weapons in a short time. if japanese start building weapons in a big way for an event like a US attack, US will have to face Huge losses before it can step on Japanese Soil.
legolasIf it is purely a scenario in which USN attacks Japan. Then probably USN will pay a huge price. If JASDF Can cover Japanese navy then it will be a heavy difficult for US. if Japan is able to deploy a long range strike plane like a F-15E or a good affective anti-ship striker it should be able to give a real tough fight to USN. Japanese commanders also have good reputation as able leaders.
legolasHi All,
On the subject of CTBT, both India and Pakastain are going to have know choice soon or later they will have to sign it or they will not get new Arms from Either US(via the UK) or from the Russians.
The US is putting pressure on the Russians to make sure that any Country they sell to that have Nukes be part of the CTBT or they could risk loosing funds from the US.
Now back tot he topic of the thread I think India is looking to upgrade their Transport and the 130J is one of the best out their and getting parts are going to be easy.
Remember Lockheed is looking to build a Civilain Version of this model so there will be parts out their that way also.
And for the record Russia also has in the pat put restrictions on their Arms Sell also, they do this to leep the Money that is come from America to them flowing.
Please keep this civil no Flamewars 🙂
RER
dear Meiner,
Regarding US putting sanctions if India and Pakistan Dont sign CTBT is just ***it. India and Pakistan now dont give a *it for US sanctions. The money that India is spending on Weapons is far too enticing for US companies and they want a cut of the pie. India and pakistan can buy weapons from France, Britian , germany, Israel, Russia, Ukraine, South Africa, Sweden, Brazil. Is the list sufficient. Now US weapons these days dont come without Innmerable number of strings and red-tape. Even Russia gets more money from Indian weapons sales than US aid. US weapons are also Costly. Pakistanis got 5 Phalanx close-in guns for 155millions while each one is priced at 5mil and even if you add 50 mil for all other costs 155 mil is far too high. They got cheated simply saying.
legolasif India buys the C-130J it also suffers from the following disadvantages:
1) The aircraft may not fly for long intervals if spare supply is stopped if a Senator stops weapon sales by introducing in Senate a amendment opposing Indian nukes. It can happen, Pakistan was on such friendly terms with US and was supposed to get 71 F-16 and there were further plans for 36 more of them
2) Disturbs its relationship with Russia.
3) India still remebers the Sea king which did not fly with lack of spares
legolasNo-dongs and Tapeodongs right now have no dongs so probably they wont hang and IL-28 will be made mince meat. I think they need bigger dongs to effectively threaten US.
legolasWhat do i see there a Mig-23 with a magic-550. Is it a french one or the american sidewinder. Can anybody clarify. it is a czeck plane right?
legolasi dont think attacking and defeating Iran and occupying it is difficult for IRan. Iran for the moment may underestimate power of US and will be stamped in a conventional battle field. But the Big problem for US comes after it invades Iran also that is controlling Iran. It may take only USAF to bomb the hell out of Iran. But you Need US army to control Iran and already US Army is overstreched. US underestimated the forces needed for controlling Iraq. If somebody does not step up and control Iraq , US Army will be over streched. I have some Doubts
1) What happens to all the China-Iran oil deals and China-India Deals, but There is so much oil in Iran and probably can not leave all that gas to Asian countries.
2) It looks to similar to colonial times, technology may have changed but the strategies will be same. Iraqi army will be used to suppress Iraqi rebels. you divide the enemy and fight. Sunni’s fight Shia’s and kurds bomb sunni’s.
The same can be applied to Iran it is all not that difficult. Do you guys see any difficulties.
They will find some rebellious faction in Iran. First US will give them control Of Some part of Irans to the factions and bomb the hell out of iran if it opposes. Then Iran weakens for 10 to 12 years and then Break it in a go. Find some old Iranian exile in Britian and set him up as Iranian head of state and thereby spreading its principles of Democracy. Any body see any thing Impossible or not feasible or something US cant do. :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:
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