That explains why it looks so cumbersome. LAIRCM is fitted to a lot of the C-17s here and it doesn’t look anywhere near that obvious!

The turrets are so big because of where they are mounted. they stick out a long way to get a good arc of effectiveness. if they were mounted under the tail like it is on the C-17, then it would be a lot smaller.
I suspect it’s not mounted under the tail on the C-130 because you have a chaff/flare dispenser in the tailplane lower side, and then further aft the tail con in nowhere near strong enough to take the weight.

In the more modern RAF era, a C-130 from Ascension to Port Stanley and back to Ascension (without landing at Stanley!) takes quite a bit of time!! I don’t know if those Hercs that were modified as AAR refuellers could actually use the “give-away” fuel as part of the tanker’s supply. If so then they could have gone on forever – and still have had enough ‘gravy’ for Alt 1, and then Alt 2!!!
One such Herc on a ‘There & Back’ trip was observed by Bowler Radar (atop Green Mountain) to be “fish-tailing” on approach to Ascension in order to use up time, supposedly to break some record or another. What all that was in aid of I know not, but perhaps somebody on the Truckie Fleet may know!
HTH
Resmoroh

Those C-130 tankers couldn’t use the fuel from the fuselage tanks.The only way they connected to the actual airframe was through a fuel vent pipe that exited the aircraft through the tailcone

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2 RAF F4J’s using the buddy system to start up /QUOTE]

From what I recall, the buddy start between F4Js involved connecting an air pipe from the compressor section of the donor aircraft that fed into the Palouste coupling on the receiver. It did not involve using the jet exhaust directed at the receivers intake especially with the F4 where the intakes were significantly higher than the jetpipe exhausts and these exhausts were angled down quite significantly. And you are quite right the normal F4J Palouste was indeed the size of a small caravan!

AAAh i did think it was a little odd! perhaps they just borrowed the hose from our palouste to cobble one up to fit between the aircraft.

I wouldn’t write Lyneham off just yet, there are currently rumours circulating that the WAH-64 fleet may relocate there….

Burt Rutan has produced push/pull twin engined aircraft (the defiant).

Chris, when you ask a question, please accept that not all reply’s will be what you want to hear.
We are all individuals
….. just like everybody else ……. Keith.

I think this point is key. just as in real life you don’t get on with everyone you meet, it’s much the same on a forum.
If you are that sensitive that one persons posts upset you enough to threaten to leave a forum, perhaps forums aren’t the place for you.
If someones posts are abusive or twisting your word to mean something else, then report them (that’s what the report button is for).

I have to admit that i don’t have much sympathy for the type of post that started off this thread, i’ve seen them on many forums before, and as the (now edited) title of this thread says, it comes across as a major flounce.

It was called STCAAME (strike command air to air missile establishment) when i was there in the 80’s.