Bloodnok – Seeing as you have had since the 17th of January to express whatever opinion you liked in this thread but have chosen not and the last comments were posted at midnight – it seems rather strange that you should choose to tell people what to do when the sage brush is clearly blowing through the thread!
I hardly think the tumbleweed was blowing through the thread when it was still on the front page!
Do you really think your petty squabbling about who knows the most about Hawker biplanes is really relevant to this thread?
I have a professional interest in this thread as my job often involves manufacturing aircraft components as it’s what I do for a day job. Reading this thread it’s not made clear whether either of you have actually ever had any hands on experience of working on any aircraft, you both just dance around what experience you both have, from which, in my experience can only lead me to one conclusion!
Usually I’m not in favour of moderation on forums, but if it was ever needed then this thread is a prime example.
Why don’t you two take your petty point scoring somewhere else or carry it on by PM. 😡
Spitfire, of sorts
Rob
I assume that’s a fibreglass replica? The advert makes it sound like you’re buying a real Spitfire!
Many large span building are quite sensitive to weight on the roof. So by the time you’ve done an engineering survey to see if it’s strong enough, then beefed up as required it may not be worth it.
Great idea though, all new houses should have then fitted I think.
We’ve had a lot of rain lately……:)
They’re usually called flanged lightening holes if that helps.
I still go to RAF Honington where I was based in the 80’s (mates aircraft is based there), and even though it’s still an active Army/RAF base the place is still very sad looking and run down. Our old aircraft pan now has barrack blocks on it and the HAS sites are all overgrown and used for storage etc.
For my day job I work on another ex RAF station that is now Army, that to, is quite run down and scruffy looking. There’s just no budget to keep the place looking nice any more, also the Army don’t seem to ‘care’ about the place. 🙁
Cool the first site bollocking of 2012 and I made it to just after lunch on the first day…. 😀
Only posted it as a separate item as I remember someone was asking about one and thought they might not see it in here.
‘Cough’ It’s 2013 now… ‘cough’ 😉
I would certainly ring Atlantique and the MAM on Coventry Baginton if I wanted to check a story that some individual whose phone number I couldn’t easily locate was storing five historic airframes on that field.
Why don’t you just give it a go?
Moggy
I do find this forum funny with it’s different standards.
On one thread you have people defending the right to privacy, and the fact they can do what they want with their own property no matter what a bunch of enthusiasts want and that private owners of aircraft are under no obligation to share any news of their property. In fact we get many comments on threads saying ‘are you sharing that news with the owners permission?’ and imply no news should come out unless authorised.
Then you get a thread like this where people are advocating just phoning up airfields they suspect of storing aircraft as if they have some god given right to know other peoples business.
Yup, strange old place this.
It matters hugely. Firstly many directors have specific strengths for specific genres of film and if they stray they fail. Secondly the talent of the director himself. Thirdly it is a TV series, not something Ritchie has tried before, as far as I am aware, so he is an unknown quantity in that respect.
Look at someone like Steven Spielbergs resume’, are all his films the same genre?
Many, many film and TV directors can turn their talent and vision to many subjects.
Going by the way you see things only a director who specialised in war series could make it, with all the inherent bias that’s already there.
I really can’t see what the issue is with Guy Ritchie directing this series. Who cares what he’s done before?
Just about any director out there has a variety of projects in their back catalogue.
I know things are slightly different, but getting her back in the air is one thing, keeping her there is quite another.
As we’ve seen with the Vulcan, it’s hugely popular wherever it goes, but getting money in has been a constant battle. Just like the Vulcan, spare parts can be hard to find for Lancasters as well. Hasn’t the BBMF one been grounded on occasion whilst spares are sourced?
On the plus side though, if there are three airworthy, then it’s one more to share the costs if they need to get batches of parts made.
And your evidence for it being cheaper is where ?
Simple logic.
Why would most of the aircraft servicing behind first line be contracted out to civvies if it wasn’t cheaper?
Why would they put out to tender contracts like SAR and the AAR? It’s either because it’s cheaper, or we can’t afford the upfront price of doing it so it goes to a PFI type of contract.
Either way it enabled the military to do something it couldn’t afford to do, or to do something cheaper.
You have a serious misunderstanding of how government contracts work.
1. Government contracts are competitive with many bidders. The contract award criteria is typically LCTA or Low Cost, Technically Acceptable.
2. To win a contract awarded on an LCTA basis, the bidder has to bid the lowest price he thinks can win, while providing a product which satisfies the terms of the solicitation. Competition is cut throat and profit margins are razor thin, about 7% for systems and 12% for support. This is far below the commercial target of 30% ROI needed to keep shareholders happy.
During the bid evaluation process, government evaluators assess the risks (technical, schedule and budgetary) of each bid. Evaluators are allowed to “risk up” or add cost and schedule span to a bid if they deem it to be too optimistic.
3. Upon contract award, a small army of government auditors descend upon the contractor to assess the daily conduct of the contract. If technical, schedule and budget shortcomings are discovered, they are reported up the chain of command.
4. The government and contractor address issues per the terms of the contract. The root cause(s) of the problem are determined using a well-defined root cause analysis process. With root cause(s) established, corrective action(s) are implemented. Typical remedies are:
- Force the contractor to expend management reserve (budget hold back) and schedule margin
- Force the contractor to reduce profit margins
- Revise the specification requirements
- Force the contractor to re-plan his tasks to fit within the budget available on a year-by-year basis
- Implement a cost sharing routine where contractor pays a % and government pays a % of the overrun
- Go back to the legislature for more money (usually a losing proposition)
There is a semi-serious rule of thumb for government contracts:
“The first 90% of the contract costs 90% of the budget, and the last 10% of the contract costs 90% of the budget”. The obvious best course of action is to accept the 90% solution. But to do so puts government bureaucrats out of work.
It’s quite similar to that in the UK. But quite often the Civvy company has a statutory limit on how much profit it can make.
We don’t get government auditors, but cost are quite tightly controlled, although it does get very complicated and petty when you have the manufacturer, the military and then the contractor all squabbling over who pays what, and repairs what.
Ok next time I am at Brize I will do some digging but that wont be until March
but I do promise you this will cost more in the long run and that is cost of new equipment put side just ops cost.As for the training no RAF crews are not trained on airbus but this is a type rating which all crews have to do no matter what they fly.its the tanker training that is the hard learnt stuff that is being taken. I will concede that some of the tanking could be done by civvy crews (Ex RAF retired) but real logic should see a 50/50 split with RAF crews if for no other than keeping the skill set in house should it be needed later on
I do love the way you just keep saying it’ll cost more, but without a shred of evidence to back it up.