Why? Russia went for MiG-29K over modernizing Su-33, so I am sure India is feeling just fine.

Why do you thin Russia picked Mig over a modernized Su-33 (like Su-35Naval)? Is it because Mig is a better fighter/bomber than Sukhoi or is it because it was already developed and simply cheaper?

Let me start, it is ~20,5meters 😀

Lincoln, you said ” I am all for Space exploration” but sound like your pretty much against it 🙂

I am even willing to pay more taxes if it goes to space exploration. This is one of the best things human can do.

Have you checked vBulletin to see if this is possible?

It should.. all the other forums I visit have this feature 🙂

It is about resolution and fixed width of the template, it has nothing to do with zooming or not.

the list seems accurate enough for most types – save for j11s. there is no way there are so many su27s and j11s. it is well documented that at best some 100 j11s were produced before production switched to j11b model. and it is also very well documented there were, all in all, 76 su27sk and su27ubk (combined) delivered in the 1990s. I’d therefore lower the flanker family variant figure by some 100 planes. also, what about adding bombers to the list? H6? does anyone know how large h6 squadrons are? i have a feeling they seem to change sizes and that plaaf and planaf squadrons might have different compositions and numbers…

I think you are forgetting Chinese assembled ones with Russian kits, 95 of them.

Russia delivered 76 of them then 200 local assemble deal is signed, 95 produced. After that J-11 came and after than J-11B.

So, ~400 is correct.

Based on:
F-22 wingspan: 13.56 m
You’d get:
Root chord ~ 7.75m
Tip chord ~ 2.32 m
‘semi’-span ~ 4.84m

= Wing area ~ 48.75 m2

Based on (right drawing obviously!):
J-20 wingspan ~ 14m
Root chord ~ 7 m
Tip chord ~ 1.17m
‘semi’-span ~ 4.67m

=Wing area ~ 38.15m2

The MTOW of the F-22 is around 27 tonnes. The MTOW of the J-20 is speculated at over 35 tonnes. I’m sure you can get an idea of the comparative empty and fighting weights… From that will come your wing loading.

Your figures are different than what I calculated. I am not saying my figures are 100% true but I really trust the image processing software I use.

I have 40m2 for J-20 excluding canards, canards add another 8m2 or so.

F-22 has 40m2, too. Also, as far as I know its tail creates negative lift for most of the flight envelope.

Another point is F-22 MTOW is 38 tonnes.

This lenght discussion is fun 🙂

I want to add something. One cannot use the pictures with truck with high accuracy because we don’t know the distance between trucks and planes. If the truck is close to J-20 that it is to J-10, J-20 will look larger that its real size and vice versa.

So, measurements from truck pictures can be only rough estimations.

By looking at J-20 pictures around my guess is it is indeed larger than F-22 but not “that” much. I predict it’s dimensions are very comparable to those of Su-27.