1.) the Su-35 is ligher than the SK.
2.) Given the replacement of legacy heavy Soviet electronics, that’s honestly not that impressive.
He didn’t even write a single word about Su-35 in his post. Don’t get so defensive. 🙂
By the way, 3 tons difference is quite a lot in my opinion. It cannot be explained only by avionics.
Unless they were competing in A-G scenarios and the F4s managed to outperform them in accuracy…
i think this is the most probable thing but who knows…
Being a spotter is not always an easy job… He released superb photos..
tell me why would this be WS-10A?
shiny petals?
Well, partially yes. Both shape and color (so I guess material or its production procedure) are different from AL-31.
I dunno… Two meters just seems way too small for me… There’s gotta be a drawing of the f 22 with the dimensions of the weapon bays somewhere on the net.
Compare how tall the men is and the width of the bay… It is around 2m.
Well, the last picture has some adjustments on it. I guess some sharpness and a little bit vivid colors 🙂 But, yeah picture is real for sure.
Please do. I can’t wait to see the 6 operational Chinese carriers at that point.
My guess, by 2020 there will be three.
Hahaha.. Nice summary picture Blitzo.. I lol’ed 😀
And humor always has some truth in it.
Also, I agree that picture (where the tractor is mostly aligned with J-20) shows pretty much J-20 is ~20m.
Source?
I’m agnostic on the matter. The last report I read was Aviation Week’s estimate of 102 built as of 2009. I think there is an assumption that China is Flanker Central, but that is hardly the case.
As many articles says “Chinese internet” is the source 🙂 You can find the approximate numbers in almost all Chinese forums. People count them according to regiments.
200 number may only explain vanilla Su-27, Su-27UB and J-11. It does not include J-11B, J-11BS and Su-30MKs. So, China should have more active Su-27 derivatives (~400) than Russia has.
Well, they had license to produce 200, which was paid in full already. As of now, they still haven’t hit that 200 yet. And even as recently as early 2010, the Russians were still delivering parts for su-27 as part of the original contract. So China has obviously paid for whatever the contract called for. They have not exported any J-11s, which would have competed against Russia in the export market.
And they were allow to indigenize the aircraft under the original agreement, so that’s what China did. The problem is that China didn’t go through the Russians with the upgrade packages. Those upgrades that Russia proposed simply didn’t fit the PLAAF requirements. That’s where Sukhoi lost out big time. But even now, Russia still gets quite a bit of money for after sales support and such.
Now by my calculation, they will hit the 200 mark for all J-11 series aircraft in the next year or so. I hope at that time they do agree on something where China pays a certain fee to be able to produce their own version of flankers for the future. China probably would not want Russia to know the exact number of flankers they produce, so it would not be a per aircraft fee.
As for consequences, they are already not supplying China with any AL-31F for the J-11 series aircraft.
I think PLAAF passed 200 number quite a time ago. I believe you are excluding at least J-11B. J-11B does not use Al-31F anyway so it is more like Chinese are not buying AL-31F engines rather than Russia’s not selling. Moreover, they have been delivering tons of engines to China, I don’t see much logic in not selling a specific type. J-15, J-20, J-10, H-6, F-17…. I cannot see any type of sanctions on China regarding any military equipment by Russia.
054As are nice looking ships.
One of the coolest things I have ever seen.. wow…
I didnt follow MMRCA competition closely but why everyone here is dismissing Mig-35? Is there a solid reason for this? Has there been a disclosure from insiders?
I mean its navalised version (I know there are differences but at the end they are comparable) is already flying by Indians… What is the response from Indian Navy for Mig-29K? If it is positive, doesnt this increase Mig-35 chances?
Is there any leaks about technical evaluation done by Indians? Which aircraft has been on the top? Mig-35 was the last?
I just wonder Mig-35’s situation……
^^ Well, figures look reasonable..
Paralay, do you have a drawing comparing F-22, PAK-FA and J-20 next to each other?