A few months ago, I was in Walnut Creek, California waiting for a friend at an office park when this guy that look liked a Hell’s Angel walked by. Another person came walking by and the two recognized one another. They were friends from long ago and were catching up about their lives. The Hell’s Angel guy said he was a part of the engineering team that worked on the C-17 program that whistle-blowed about the corruption going on around the project and took part in Congressional hearings testifying to that fact. The way he talked it was just a huge pork-barrel project that didn’t live up to what was promoted about the C-17.
Yeah, because the damage was more serious than reported.
why can’t everyone belived it was the C-802!, is it because it’s chinese made that actully work as advertise?. it come a shock to most who belived china only produce garbage weapon system but they spend alot years and money on the C-802 and it’s install on most of the PLAN ships and sub’s!.same goes for the missles liked the PL-8 and SD-10 it’s just no good at all maybe not! .well just my’s own personal opinon. 😀
It’s called denial.
Now I’m all confused about the designations. The last I heard, the KJ-200 was the Y-8 Rotodome AEW version. By the pictures of the crash everyone is saying they’re seeing the balance beam. The news sources are saying it’s the big Chinese IL/A-50 version, KJ-2000.
uh oh, some one brought out a nationalist
That’s funny! Military forums display nothing but nationalism.
Definitely a very good idea from the Korean point of view. With the Liberation Army dictatorship next door gaining in military and economic might, one wonders what the future holds as I have elucidated in the currently last post of the “Russian Air Force in Deep Crisis thread.” It pays to be ready for any eventuality. My best wishes towards early completion of the project.
Regards
Sorry to tell you this, but this is more about Japan. Japan is making more unilateral moves to claim and occupy disputed territories it has with China and the two Koreas. China, on the other hand, is signing joint ventures with other countries on islands that are disputed. You don’t hear a peep from China about South Korea’s high-tech military buildup in recent years. Afterall the two have a mutual economic relationship.
I predict that with all the paranoid attention over China you guys have, South Korea will go unnoticed and become a more dynamic prosperous nation than Japan has ever been which will spur ultra-nationalism in Japan and cause a huge headache for the US. Now a strong South Korea against Japan is a good thing.
37 sec video of FC-1 04 test flight.
I would’ve posted this earlier in response to SOC but the forum had some problem.
1) It’s no nukes first… period!
2) Because Americans (politicians, media, and the population) says China is the worst country in the world and all the excuses that were used for attacking Iraq can be said of China as well. Just look at the news today. There’s a lot of “China Threat” news. A lot fear about China in Africa and South America as if the Cold War were on again.
3) The Iraq casualty numbers for the US are low for a war yet Americans complain about the “high” losses and more over get angry when the insurgents have the occasional success that kills a lot of US soldiers. It’s called “war.” That’s what happens in a war. Complaining and whining about what tactics the insurgency commits to is not going to get them to change a successful tactic that is turning Americans off from the war. C’mon, we all know Americans think their lives are worth a hundred times more than anyone else. So when one is killed, it’s equivalent to a hundred Americans being killed in the American mentality.
4) Who ever sinks the first modern American carrier will be huge blow to the egos of Americans. Just like losing in Vietnam was a huge morale blow that affected Americans for a long time.
5) Just like I stated before, Americans say China is the worst country in the world. American hypocrisy of its own China policy just creates more anger in Americans towards China. Americans aren’t going to blame themselves for buying products that aren’t Chinese but labored out to China by American and other foreign corporations which makes up the vast majority of the trade deficit. That’s like saying a Detroit autoworker owns and profits from the vehicle he or she makes when sold. Unfair trade? Unfair trade is when Americans complain about China not buying American when China is only allowed to buy American products that the Chinese can make for themselves and at a lesser cost. What China wants to buy from the US won’t be sold at all or will be put under scrutiny because it falls under dual-use with possible military applications. By the time the greenlight is given, if ever, another foreign supplier is found. To understand the scope of what high-tech products can be put under dual-use scrutiny: the most advanced nuclear weapon, the W-88, was design on an Apple IIe. Look at the IBM computer hardware deal to Lenova that sounded alarm bells in the US. So American politicians and media spin it to look like China won’t buy American when in actuality the US won’t let them. China is going to build 40 nuclear reactors in the next 20 years. The American nuclear industry wants to sell them the reactors. Then there’s the paranoid faction that are afraid that China will use them and learn to make plutonium for nuclear weapons, a technology and skill China already possesses.
6) It can be argued that the US doesn’t attack North Korea because it has what… a few nuclear weapons? The US is confident that it’ll take out China’s nuclear capability but not North Korea’s? Whichs also argues my point that the US can’t take casualties no matter how much of a US nuclear counterstrike afterwards. And that’s why Iran is bragging about the ability to produce nuclear weapons.
Actually I think the US would AVOID using nukes at just about any cost. As long as it stays conventional the US can pretty much do what it wants in a war with China provided they have somewhere to operate from. China couldn’t do anything to the US mainland. If it went nuclear then all of a sudden you have US territory at risk and I can’t imagine any president doing that if he had a choice in the matter. If China sunk a carrier with a nuke would we nuke them back? Who knows. I don’t have any doubts that we could get all of their long range FIXED nuclear missiles and their SSBN but aren’t they starting to field mobile ICBMs now? If we couldn’t get a Scud in the middle of a desert I wouldn’t want to bank on us getting all the mobile missiles in terrain like you can find in China. OF course if they nuked LA and San Francisco etc. it would be all over for them as we could pretty much obliterate every city in China worth hitting.
Again, China has a declared a no nuke first policy. So if any nukes used will be by Americans first. The US will have to build its forces in the area to strike and China will react long before to assure an effective counterstrike. The US is not capable of seeing everything. Kosovo showed the US couldn’t find most Serb armor contrary to what was reported by the Pentagon during the war. Mostly decoys destroyed. China is larger than Yugoslavia and the US. The US can be fooled. Nuking China to that extent means nuking US allies in the region simply because they’re in the path of fallout. I don’t think they’ll like you after that. If the US was confident enough that it could take on China, the US would’ve attacked China long ago. Also Americans can’t handle casualties. China certainly has the capability to sink one or two carriers by conventional means. That alone will be huge morale blow to Americans which will either force Americans to think twice or drive them to go nuclear first. China is suppose to be the worst country in the world according to Americans. The US has attacked other countries for less. So since China hasn’t been attacked by the US, it says something about American confidence and the realistic consequences of such an attack.
Well China has a no first nuke policy unlike the US. So if China did, the US certainly would’ve used nukes already. In a war with China, the US will most likely use nukes from the very beginning simply to save as many Americans lives as possible. The same excuse used on Japan during WWII. If the US is making excuses to use nukes first on Iran, it’ll use them first on China. No doubt.
“Local defence experts have noted that China, a major buyer of Russian military hardware has not been offered stake in the project.”
Maybe it’s because China has it’s own 5th generation fighter to develop so why would there be an offer?
Got this from CDF.
China-made “UFO” to debut
Vertical maneuver, suspension in air and unmanned flight, the words used to describe “UFOs” in science fiction films, will become true in reality. News from the School of Earth and Space Sciences of Beijing University says a virtual system of stratospheric solar aerospace flight system has been developed with Chinese independent IPR and is applying for a national patent.
The system looks like a pentacle and can maneuver automatically in the air.
According to Prof. Yan Lei with the School, the system is powered by solar cell. It adopts bearingless motor propeller to realize silent flight, vertical maneuver, long-time suspension in air. It can realize self-control and ground control. Capable of carry arms, it can attack and defend itself.
By People’s Daily Online
Any ideas?
Real? Someones joke? PS of that russian ABM?
Anyone any ideas???
I’ve seen full pages of that article on another forum. I don’t read Chinese but clearly it mentions DF-41. Other posters who can read Chinese in the thread talk about it as the DF-41 mobile launcher.
PLAN ships.
Why all the time when China makes a step forward in anything from fighter jet advancemets all the way to something as simple as the Disney company thinking of building a theme park in Shanghai, there’s a big fart let loose in the room by the usual suspects? Didn’t another thread say the LCA and Kaveri were about to go into production? Don’t you guys have your own achievements to crow about?