Whatever it is, it can’t be denied there’s some real fishy things about this.

Someone is going to EXTREME lengths to take as unclear pictures as possible. There’s clearly a reason for this, especially since whoever is taking these pictures can get views of it from many angles.

I mean, its not as if the plane is so far away.

Second, the plane is fully painted. When was the last time the Chinese flew a painted prototype?

Third, is it me or is there something really wacky about those wheel-bay doors?

Nothing different from the pics of the 039B SSK that came out recently. Blurry pics at first then every day more clear pics came out and that turned out to be real. How would you know how secret China is? Like do they advertise what level of secrecy they go through so you can base your confusion on?

As in anything there are similarities and differences – between these two aircraft – Not just a coincidence ?:cool:

Yeah… One’s a delta configuration and one’s not. Also one is fan art for all we know. Other than that those are big differences.

And SU-30MKIs move towards the border in response?

You probably don’t pay attention to world affairs. India already had MKIs deployed in the region because of the alleged border crossing and rocks being painted red. The deployment of missiles and fighters by China is a response to that.

There’s a document from the 1990s circulating on the internet from the Project for a New American Century, an organization started by Cheney, Wolfowitz, and many others that held key positions in the Bush White House. It basically draws out a plan that required some Pearl Harbor type event to occur to give an excuse for the US to invade Iraq as the first stepping stone to controlling the world’s oil supply. Guess what? 9/11 happened and the Bush Adminstration invaded Iraq because it said Saddam was about to stike with nuclear weapons. So that document on the internet says that was a lie and the US invaded another country illegally. It was on the internet. IT MUST BE TRUE!

At no moment are endorsing or saying that was true as was implied by Deino.

That wasn’t what he was implying. He found humor that something absurd like that was reported. That still doesn’t change the fact a Russian reported that in a document. Now you’re trying to blame Deino for what a Russian wrote.

I love how when your side insults the Chinese accusing they wrote something some Russian obviously wrote, there’s no problem. But I can’t point something absurd your side writes on the internet. Love that freedom of speech that you hide behind. 😀

Because we have more important things to deal with that Chinese Communism, but if they did attack a NATO country then we’d attack.

And why would China bother with Norway? Here’s your crazy contradictions at work. According to you guys China wouldn’t mess with world finances because it’ll hurt themselves but somehow China would venture and bother to attack Norway when according to you China would suffer losses? Is this like that US Vietnam War movie I saw where it was just about soldiers protecting some American nurses at a MASH unit from being raped. The whole Viet Cong army would sacrifice their lives just for the opportunity to rape an American nurse. You wonder how you guys lost the war. I’m sure plenty of you think that was a plausible motivation of the Viet Cong. Just like you think China would pick on Norway for some reason which is like watching a Mel Brooks movie or a South Park episode? Guess what? Norway isn’t important. Seriously, if you can take on China with such ease, why don’t you do it? You don’t have to wait for China to attack Norway. You have all the excuses you’ve piled up in your heads right now. You have the military to do it. You have absolutely nothing to worry about as you guys have explained here. Yet you don’t dare to pull the trigger. Ironic how you guys spend time on these unrealistic fantasies yet when I tell you China just has to say “Boo!” to Europe and it falls apart as last week’s world markets have shown, all of the sudden you guys want to be serious. And seriously China just has declare no confidence in Europe, which is not a crime by the way, and you’re gone without a shot being fired. You guys upset that someone would dare say such a one-sided thing? Of course! How dare someone declare how easily you can be taken care of. Even if you’re just putting out there a fantasy argument, wouldn’t you want to hear what China would do in that situation? If not then all you’re doing is watching porn with each other. Because realistically the world doesn’t operate like a video game or porn like you guys believe.

Nah. China has a more powerful weapon. It just has to launch a torpedo called a financial review of the Euro every week and Europe goes down. :diablo:

May 26, 2010, 6:17 p.m. EDT

Financial stocks lose grip on gains as euro tumbles
By Rebecca L. McClay, MarketWatch
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — The U.S. financial sector relinquished earlier gains by the close of trading Wednesday, part of a broad reversal tied to renewed concerns about Europe’s financial stability.

The Financial Select Sector SPDR Fund (CONSOLIDATED:XLF) , which tracks the financial stocks in the S&P 500 (MARKET:SPX) , fell 0.7% to $14.36, off its intraday high of $14.72. The S&P 500 closed off 0.6%.

Financial stocks were higher for much of the day, buoyed by housing and other economic indicators. Late in the day, the financial sector, along with the broader market, reacted to reports that China might review its European bond holdings, which pushed the euro below $1.22. See Market Snapshot on U.S. stocks.

Credit gauges sour
Indexes and credit spreads that act as barometers of investors’ fear have worsened since earlier this year, though they are still far from crisis levels current level recent lows worst in oct. 2008
3-month dollar Libor 0.54% 0.25% until March 8 4.75% on Oct. 13
The TED spread 0.37% 0.09% on March 15 4.56% on Oct. 13
The VIX 32 points 15.6 on March 14 96 on Oct. 23
2-year swap spread 0.45% 0.11% on March 24 1.65% on Oct. 2
Source: FactSet79486 A weaker euro has rattled stocks for weeks, as investors view it as both a challenge to U.S. exports abroad and a worsening sign of Europe’s financial plight. See Currencies for more on euro, dollar.

Citigroup Inc. (NYSE:C) shares rallied more than 6%, passing the $4 level, before closing the day up only 2.1% at $3.86.

Bank of America Corp. (NYSE:BAC) shares lost 0.1% though Zions Bancorp (NASDAQ:ZION) rose 3.7% after Morgan Keegan upgraded the stock to outperform.

Mortgage insurer PMI Group Inc. (NYSE:PMI) closed up 5.2% after reports new-home sales jumped nearly 15% in April. See Economic Report on April new-home sales.

C 3.86, +0.08, +2.12%

6543MAMShares Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (NYSE:GS) , which have been outperforming the broader financial sector this week, closed down 1.6% in the wake of their 4.3% gain on Tuesday.

Goldman’s stock jumped Tuesday after Barney Frank (D., Mass.), the House Financial Services Committee chairman, said the Senate proposal requiring banks to split off their derivatives operations “goes too far.” Still, Goldman shares have fallen sharply during the turmoil in financial markets in recent weeks.

Through Tuesday, the stock was down more than 20% from the intraday high of $186.41 it set in mid-April, according to FactSet Research.

“Pulling it all together, we expect the Senate reform bill will initially have significant earnings impact before banks can start to offset some of the measures,” J.P. Morgan analysts said in a research note Wednesday.

“We have attempted to estimate the impact of key items in the Senate financial reform that would impact our banks — we expect these will, on average, reduce normalized earnings-per-share by 13% before any offsets,” they wrote. “As the Senate and House merge their respective bills, the earnings impact will change.” Read related story on financial reform.

Elsewhere in the financial sector, FIS (NYSE:FIS) shares climbed 3.4% after the company said it plans to repurchase up to $2.5 billion of its common stock. Morgan Stanley (NYSE:MS) rose 1.6%; E-Trade Financial Corp. (NASDAQ:ETFC) closed up 1.4% and Marshall & Ilsley Corp. (NYSE:MI) climbed 2.5%.

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what the hell are you talking about ? I haven’t said anything about Russia and China and frankly couldn’t care less about whether Russian honeymoon with China is over or has progressed to more amorous things.

What? You don’t understand that there’s more than one side of the story out there? Just like those would rather believe that Russia shut China out than China choosing not to be involved with the PAK-FA, so I have the right to do the same. Just as with Red Flag. The retraction only came after complaining and a demand of an apology and retraction. Boeing and other defense contractors don’t want to lose arms deals to the Russians or Europeans.