RE: Airshow Irritations!
Sounds like Rip-off Britian if you ask me
RE: Lancaster G George
To Lancman (and others)
We are not all obsessed, single type junkies. I would imagine that most of the forum do not have a vast library to hand and therefore do not know the whereabouts of each and every warbird simply by reference to a single code letter.
DOUGHNUT
RE: Airshow Irritations!
Hi Steve, I raised both programme and admission costs, I understand the reasons for the admission cost ie fuel insurance etc. But how come the annual Dutch airshow (this year at Twenthe on the 21st June) is always free? Most USA military shows are also free.
RE: Lancaster G George
This is beginning become a regular request. Which aircraft are you referring too? Please don’t start a new thread without full details or at least an indication of who, what or where you are talking about.
>The Lanc looks great, but please remember when starting a new thread >to tell us which aircraft and it’s location. I’m guessing its one >of the Canadian Lancs, but where, and is it accessible for visits.
DOUGHNUT
RE: Another Lancaster restored..!
Lanc looks great, but please remember when starting a new thread to tell us which aircraft and it’s location. I’m guessing its one of the Canadian Lancs, but where, and is it accessible for visits.
DOUGHNUT
RE: Airshows Past
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 13-01-03 AT 10:46 AM (GMT)]The Ventura at West Malling in 1983 was the N-reg Howard 500 conversion. Is this aircraft still active in the UK ? I last saw it at the Coventry airshow 2001.
DOUGHNUT
RE: Piccie 4 PII
Andrew,
Its very unlikely that the aircraft is travelling at Mach 1, even the mighty Phantom would not be able to achieve that at low level. Also it would be a mad pilot to try it. The shock waves that you can see are due to the moisture content of the air condensing to water due to the change in air pressure over the wing. As VX-4 is home based at Point Mugu California (probably where the photo was taken) and the airbase right on the coast it often has damp foggy days which can easily cause this.
DOUGHNUT
RE: Airshow Irritations!
1)Paying extra for so called enthusiast enclosures, which are no better than anywhere else on the airfield.
2)The overall cost of British airshows. Most military airshows in Europe and the USA are free (there is sometimes a nominal charge for car parking). Flyins are generally great value money but the big shows, Duxford Legends included are getting to the point of being unaffordable. The worst has to be the Fairford IAT.
3)Windbreaker man at the front has been created by the airshow organisers. If the public can see that half the crowdline has been given to corporate enclosures, public grandstands and other private areas then they may feel justified.
4) Stepladder man, again the problem has been caused by the organisers who insist on erecting barriers so close to the static aircraft. I will agree that I can see no point in standing on a ladder at the front of the crowd and this should be stopped.
5)Ground equipment and access ladders around the static display aircraft, who remembers the Tornado at Waddington last year? It is simply not necessary, if little Johnny wants to sit in an aeroplane than the best thing is a cockpit section specially prepared and taken to the shows. The RAF exhibition flight used to do this with several cockpit sections and the replica Tornado’s, Hawks and a Harrier where have these gone ?
6)Why are barriers so close that you can touch the aircraft. Barriers should be placed a minimum of 4 metres away, this would not only allow for clear photographs but also act as emergency vehicle route. And as for the F**** blue cones that are used by IAT they should be burned.
7)Airshow commentary and the programmes sold are usually of little value and such poor quality that I never bother with them. The general public does not want to know that the pilot wears green socks and likes knitting. They want to know when their favourite display item will appear.
8)I could go on and on and ……
DOUGHNUT
RE: What’s the gem for Flying Ledgends then?
How about running an open top bus very slowly up the flightline. I remember them doing this for the first big Spitfire meet (50th Anniversary I think) Make a £1 donation for a ride to cover the cost of fuel.
DOUGHNUT
RE: What’s the gem for Flying Ledgends then?
I agree with Alexis about the lack of Sea Fury’s in recent years. Lets hope for better luck the FAAHF Sea Fury and Firefly, both missing for several years. Can Roger confirm that the Dutch Connie will be avialable for this years airshow’s ?
DOUGHNUT
RE: SHACKLETONS
Hindsight is a very great thing, but for the RAF to dispose of its last three Shackleton MR3 (WR985 to Long Marston, and two to Peter Vallance) was surely a short sighted move. The aircraft were already on site at Cosford and I assume were in reasonable condition, after all they are all still with us today. It was at about this time the RAF policy of one exhibit per base was started and I believe that this was extended to the RAF Museum so you will not see a Phantom at Cosford because there is one at Hendon, was the same applied to the MR3’s because a AEW2 was at Manchester ? I fully agree with the comments that Duxford should make plans for a ground restoration of their MR3, if necessary using the spares/ major components of another aircraft. They have showed what good work they can do with the American exhibits lets have a couple of really good British restoration projects for 2003.
DOUGHNUT
RE: F82 Twin Mustang
Just a couple of shots of the P-82 at Lackland Air Base, taken in 1996. The collection of preserved aircraft at joint bases of Lackland and Kelly, numbers around fifty. Its a strange place not offically open to the public as a museum, but with several public roads running through the base. In 1996 a simply phone call to public affairs to say we were coming and base pass stamped ‘Photographer’ were all that was required in order to drive around the whole base. Wonderful place. I guess it is somewhat different today.
DOUGHNUT
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RE: A question on filmscanners
Hi Roger,
I use the Primfilm scanner but my model is the PF3600pro, I works up to 3600 dpi, so if you can find one of those a good price it may be better than the 1800 model. My only complaint has been its a bit slow at high res and the files are very big. When printing off on my Lexmark Z53 an A4 print is too fuzzy (sometimes) but A5 size is fine.
So much to do, so little time to do it !
DOUGHNUT
RE: Cosford Victors
Regarding the Cosford Victors, hope the enclosed photos are of interest.
Victor B1 XA923 and Vulcan B1 XA900 were both take in 1984, does anybody know when these two aircraft arrived at Cosford, I assume at the time they were with the SoTT. When did the Museum at Cosford officially opening ? Both Victor and Vulcan were scraped due to heavy corrosion of the undercarriage, I’m sure with time and effort these components could have been replaced with time expired items from K2/B2 units. I was surprised to find Victor K1a XH592 was at Cosford in 1988, when did she arrive / depart the museum. The current inmate being gulf war veteran XH672 .
DOUGHNUT
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RE: DC-7 Seven Seas
Could not agree more with the idea of a ‘Super Seven’ at Duxford, or Wroughton ?. The ideal candidate is currently at Chandler, Arizona, N90804 is ex G-AOIF once used by BOAC. Hope the attached photos work, they are mostly at Chandler in 1997, the ‘Delta’ scheme is at Palmer Field, Alaska in 2000 being used as a fire bomber. N90251 is in storage at Fairbanks, Alaska. Here go the photos.
DOUGHNUT
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