The Air Britain Hampden file (p 204) features two photos of the Hampden (P1310), in a dismantled state. The first photo’s location (by Peter Corbell) is not captioned, the second photo (by Arthur Pearcy) is at Bovingdon in December 1955 and captioned “presumably P1310” after arrival from Bicester.
I will try and ask my contact to see if I can get any further info from him when I see him and i’ll post back.
Bomberboy
Just look on G-INFO, no great secret
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1
Definitely happened at Coningsby!



03-11-95, Bulldog XX624. 11 AEF Leeming, 21 mins
19-04-96, Bulldog XX619, 11 AEF Leeming, 40 mins
XX619 & XX624 both ex Yorkshire Universities Air Squadron




Looking at the formation photo for the first time in many years, it would appear that XX619 had the underwing serial applied incorrectly as ‘XX916’, never noticed that before!

I suspect your best chance of seeing a Shuttle from the UK is to hope for clear skies tonight at 1843.
The magnitude (second column) is actually very bright tonight (lower numbers = brighter) so it should be highly visible, cloud permitting.
The early Dominie paint scheme featured a thin line of Light Aircraft Grey above the red fuselage stripe, but this disappeared in the 1970s.
Thought this was an appropriate place to put these pics I’ve just scanned. The Finningley fleet waiting to go night flying, April 1978.






Pacific Flyer
Are you talking from experience here? Or is this an uninformed guess?
Pacific Flyer is correct. The current Boeing Flight Crew Training Manual says :
“Begin the takeoff roll with the control wheel approximately centered. Throughout the takeoff roll, gradually increase control wheel displacement into the wind only enough to maintain approximately wings level.
Note: Excessive control wheel displacement during rotation and liftoff increases spoiler deployment. As spoiler deployment increases, drag increases and lift is reduced which results in reduced tail clearance, a longer takeoff roll, and slower airplane acceleration.”
Poor technique, with this driver cranking full into-wind aileron from the beginning of the take off roll, resulting in undesirable roll spoiler deployment…….a classic example of how not to do it!
Woah-ho-ho, let’s not sling accusations around like that. Pilot error or not, this forum’s not the kind of place to go bad-mouthing an experienced warbird pilot…
Accidents happen. Some have better conequences than others.
Read this http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/dft_avsafety_pdf_501760.pdf and form your own judgement.

158 knots of wind, smooth as silk (and not often you see 20 degrees of drift on a jet)
Is this an emergency with two qualified pilots at the controls?
A colleague, or even close close friend, passing away en-route would be a stressful experience. RIP
I suspect only someone associated with Loganair could have taken that photo
Certainly was, best fun paid flying in the UK!

Two more of the Student, taken July & September 1981


Duncan flew it from Shoreham after the jet pipe trials at Hatfield to Glasgow on a care basis in the Loganair Hangar and flew it from time to time
Lodging with Loganair in the early 1980s
