You’re not kidding, the weather did deteriorate. 🙂
Manchester is famed for its rather, how shall I put it, ‘liquid’ microclimate!
Saw an all white 762 at BHX a couple of weeks ago, allegedly for ‘Poo Air’ (possibly something lost in translation there), to do flights UK-Amritsar (as flown by Monarch out of EMA last winter) – is that the same 762 as shown in these (good) pics?
Only the Brits could redesign the Avro 748 (first flight June 1960) and call it an ‘Advanced’ turboprop……more like the legendary Stiff Records slogan, ‘reversing into tomorrow’.
But, hey, they are doing it again, using taxpayer’s money, to redesign the Comet (first flight July 1949), as the Nimrod Mk. 4….it’s enough to make you weep.
Moondance – Spot on
Just looked familiar – quick glance into Francis Mason’s excellent Lancaster book to confirm – best single volume history of the Lanc?
How about Lancaster PB972 or G-33-2 of Flight Refuelling?
There were the ‘Red Sheds’ of Air Ecosse – G-RMSS & G-DATA I think (and why can I remember things like that and not my wedding anniversay? – sad!)
A type rating with no hours as a line pilot won’t really help you. I feel it would be an expensive gamble. I have spoken to many a chief pilot regarding this matter and all of them said it was a waste of time unless you have hours on type.
Self funding your training is clearly a huge gamble, with a large expense and no certainty of employment. As I understand it, CTC select you for their scheme, rate you on a type (at your expense), and then ‘lease’ you to an airline for a period of time (the airline supplies the aircraft and line training) – when the period expires, the airline then decides whether to employ you permanently.
A rating without experience may well be pointless, but the CTC scheme seems to be an increasingly popular way into my airline.
Martin, please bear in mind that I am nothing to do with recruitment or training, but I do get the impression that, for people like yourself, there is a slight (but only slight) preference for an Intergrated rather than Modular pilot.
However, with the money you save going Modular, get yourself off to CTC after you get your license and get a Type Rating (think I was told about £12,000 for the 757), and all of a sudden you become much more employable (and saved over £10,000!).
So, on balance, the ‘Modular’ route is probably worthwhile….but the one certain thing about aviation, is that NOTHING is certain….good luck!
Also I remember the Orion cabin crew unifroms and in winter the stewardess wore knee length brown leather boots with a big heel, very nice!!
At last, we agree on something!
Wrong! The 737-200 advanced could make the canaries with a full load even when operating from the most notherly UK airports, as BY and AE frequently did!
Read the post retroboy – frequently yes, but not consistently. With all your great authority on civil aviation, may I just ask when was the last time you actually operated a 732?
The 737-200 which was the staple type of the charter carriers in the 80s was ideal fro this type of destination. It had the range to reach the canaries with full payload and was excellant at short fields. It could get in and out of the smallest holiday airports and because of its integral airstairs it was self-sufficient on the ground.
Hmm…a bit more rose tinted nostalgia from retroboy. I don’t think you will find many pilots missing the ‘range’ capability of the B732 (or ‘Scud’ as it is universally referred to – lots of noise, no range!).
The 732 was a very capable short hauler for the ITs, but a more problematic medium hauler. A trip to/from the Canaries/Eastern Med without a tech stop for fuel could never be guaranteed…..especially from the northern UK airports….NCL crews would joke that all Turkish holidays were twin centred with Ostend, due to the frequency of tech stops!
What tended to knacker take off performance at places like CFU was the 732’s poor obstacle clearance capabilities in the event of an engine failure (which has to be accounted for on every take off). I can recall sitting at CFU one hot day, struggling to come up with a regulated take off weight (using 17 with a tailwind,full power, packs off etc.) that would allow us a fighting chance of getting back to southern England without a tech stop, and watching an Air Two Bob 757 getting airborne off 35 (the most obstacle limited runway at CFU), with a full load, going direct to GLA – a certain message seemed obvious!
The airstairs and APU did make the 732 very self reliant, but its time had clearly passed as an IT aircraft about 15 years ago (and the avionics seemed to have more in common with the B17 than the B757, but that’s another story!)
Who’s this ‘Robin Hodd’ anyway, sounds like a bricklayer from Mansfield.
Just call it Scunthorpe International and be done with it…..and lets see what the Forum Auto Thought Police makes of Scunthorpe……blimey, it allowed it!
My Travel are great
I’m sure the banks agree with you, especially considering their £910 million loss last year.
non of the drivers had no paper work and did’nt speak English
Sounds like the drivers linguistic skills at English are just about as good as Britannia’s written attempts.
And they have a habit of sending engine oil into the air conditioning, still with Retro-boy’s love of the smell of fag ash, he should be in his element.
I just dont understand. How are Emirates, Qatar Airways, Gulf Air and now Gulf air Traveller filling those horrible A330s from the likes of BHX and MAN and GLA.
Moan, moan, bring back the Super Connies, two days to the Gulf and as many engine failures as you like.