@toan,

how did you come to these results? Especially the part with operating and unit cost? Why the Gripen gets 10.00 in both and the Eurocanards suck in these aspects? What did you use as a benchmark? The Gripen:confused:

Or you were just being completely ironic:o

I like her boots… kinky:diablo:

Oh, Don Chan, you pervert:dev2:

perhaps Turkey could buy them off of Greece?

since we’re on that issue maybe a solution to aegean dispute could be made during this crisis. Turkey buys off Imia/Kardak island and pays for Greece’s debts. peace ensues.

Can you really imagine this happening?

If Greek government would even try to sell some military equipment to Turkey the chaos you were able to see on the streets of Athens would look like kids’ game compared what would happen.

You always like to play with extreme ideas, kinky:dev2:

But don’t Albanians and Serbians look pretty much the same?

Hotdog, if you had any clue, you would never be saying this stuff. Come to Belgrade, spend a day in the city, walk a lot. Then go to Albania or Kosovo. Trust me, the difference is more than obvious.

the French sure seem to think they have great women.. i think they’re not bad at all. aircraft is prettier though :diablo:

I had 9 French friends coming to both Belgrade and Podgorica in last 5 years. Several times. And all of them, (many of them don’t know each other) were simply stunned with girls here. And especially high percentage of good looking ones.

Lots of aviation related talk here.

Here, if a girl is looking very good we have this expression that sounds weird when translated properly in English: “This chick is an airplane!”

So, yes, we are discussing aviation matters:p

are you saying Serbia does not want Kosovo back?

I never said that.

Serbia would love to see Kosovo back, but I’m afraid that’s not gonna happen. It’s armed forces are a shadow of former selves, and current Serbia’s situation (geopolitical and economical) doesn’t help them develop in a potent military force.

Let me play your game for a moment. Let’s say someone gives Serbia tens of billions of dollars to re-arm. Serbia gets the most modern jets (Rafales, Sukhois, whatever is available), SAMs, MBTs, artillery, APCs, comms… everything in numbers to make an all out war with a potent adversary, including a lot of ammo… to cut it short becomes European Israel equipment-wise. It would still take years to get used to new equipment and reach combat ready status. On the other hand, there’s still NATO in Kosovo (KFOR). Do you think they would just stand aside and let Serbia arm to teeth, train its troops and when ready storm Kosovo:confused:

Pics or i wont believe you!

LOL

I don’t have pics of Serbian girls on my HD. I don’t need that. I can just go out and enjoy:p

Just ask people who have been here, Hotdog.

I studied abroad and did my internships for about 5 years. I’ve seen most of Europe. Since I came back from Switzerland, I’m traveling 5-6 times a year. Almost always for pleasure – meaning, I have time to look for beautiful girls, but result is always the same – when I get back home I get stunned by the beauty of our girls.
All of my friends who visited either Belgrade or Podgorica were also stunned. And all of them share my view. I’m speaking of people who travelled most of the world, and many of them are of different nationalities (in my class there was 30 different nationalities out of 52 students – a real frickin’ UN:D).

times have changed. Germany and Japan are strong US allies, Britain isn’t trying to re-invade the US, and Austria and Hungary have now separated.

You are funny, I give you that:D

Germany and Japan lost the war, that’s why they are US allies. In case they didn’t my name would be Dietrich and yours Yamato… or, we wouldn’t exist at all…

Britain isn’t trying to re-invade the US – guess why? Because they CANNOT. But, would they do that in case they had a feasible chance of coming on top… I guess Swerve or Fedaykin wouldn’t mind seeing HBO as Her Majesty’s loyal servant:diablo: I’ll tell you a secret: they’ll never publicly admit that:p

And Austria and Hungary have been separated for good 93 years… The USSR dissolved… Czechs and Slovaks separated too… Serbia and Montenegro… My ex and I… so what??? All of these (in the last paragraph) were relationships, not hijackings or tortures… You are talking of making allies with someone who had occupied your land for almost 500 years??? It wasn’t a war that started and finished in 20, 30 years. But 500, Hotdog. Are you aware that they are putting big accent on history in schools here, especially on this period?

only nationalists dwell on events of the past and never let go.

IMHO, most of the Serbs are nationalists, so go and figure.

Turkey, under Erdogan helicopters, is trying to expand its influence and would be more than willing to give military aid if it can further their interest.

They are trying to establish some kind of cooperation in certain fields. Military was never mentioned that I know. And beside that Turkey has much closer allies to give surplus equipment to.

P.S.

As for the girls… come and see… but I’m afraid you’d break your neck, as you would be shifting from left to right so quickly:D

Anybody knows which VMF ship arrived to Corfu, Greece, this weekend?

I’ve been here for a couple of days, but didn’t have time to approach the ship and see it’s name. Anyway, they had naval band and choir performing at Liston tonight alongside the Russian Marines.

It’s an amphibious ship and don’t know which class (Alligator, Ropucha, Ivan Rogov)… wasn’t able to distinguish from distance.

Thank you so much H_K:)

Do you perhaps know what would be the cost of acquiring a Gowind configured this way? I know that the MN is getting it for free (for a 3 year period)? But let’s say an export customer. I know that this is a tough question that includes a lot of variables, but then again, you are so much into the MN and DCNS, so I hope that you can give us a rough figure:)

I agree. Patrick, you are being objective on most of the topics discussed, but you seem to be a bit off on this one. Better leave it.

When you say Africa, do you mean Africa as a whole continent or just selected group of countries that are positioned in its middle part. Because Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, South Africa et al. don’t seem as a negligible market segment. Don’t you agree?