Whatever you’re taking is pretty potent stuff. We KNOW (not suspect, not presume) that Saddam gassed Kurds at Halabja & other places in the 1980s. We have captured Iraqi documents a-plenty, manufacturing plants, research stations, chemical weapons, the people who designed & made them, soldiers trained in their use – a comprehensive picture of Saddams chemical weapons programme & its use.

We have no evidence whatsoever that the Turks had anything to do with those 1980s attacks. We knew at the time that Saddam had been using chemical weapons against Iran for years (that was well documented & widely published at the time – the Iranians were very keen to supply evidence), & that the chemical attacks on Kurdish villages were co-ordinated with other Iraqi military actions.

There has been no solid evidence of any Turkish use of chemical weapons. There have been allegations of recent small-scale use, but they have not been substantiated. There is no evidence whatsoever of Turkish use of them in Iraqi Kurdistan in the 1980s.

You know for a fact? You saw those documents with your own eyes? or your just repeating what was said to the media?
Funny how two other people on here have talked about Turks bombing the Kurds during the no fly zone…. (and fighting each other for how many years before that?)

Russia has demonstrated its first stealth fighter, designed as a cheaper alternative to the US F-22 Raptor.

Russian president Vladimir Putin watched the first public flight of the fifth-generation T-50 fighter at the MAKS air show outside Moscow.

The Sukhoi T-50, jointly developed with India, flew publicly for the first time at an air show near Moscow.

The T-50 aims to match the latest US design, and Russia plans to make up to 1,000 of the jets over coming decades.

India expected to buy up to 200 of the aircraft. However, full production is not due before 2015.

Mr Putin took the opportunity to promise more support for Russia’s aviation industry after overseeing more than $1 billion worth of deals at the show.

“The state has supported and will support Russia’s aerospace industry. It is a strategic priority for us,” he told officials and industry executives in a speech, stressing that the government invested $9 billion in the industry in 2009-11.

The Russian government aims to diversify Russia’s economy away from energy, which represents about half of budget revenues, and is keen to develop technology-heavy sectors such as aerospace and auto industry.

Mr Putin is also keen to show the success of his government in replicating Soviet-era achievements in technology and defence ahead of a presidential election in March 2012 in which he says he may take part.

Russia has consolidated almost all aviation production and research assets, split and partly privatised in the 1990s, into a state-controlled United Aircraft Corporation despite resistance and criticism from some industry members.

“The consolidation of the aviation industry has been completed. This work has been long and difficult. Now all the enterprises that were integrated have clear vision of their future development,” Mr Putin said.

you must be blind if you can’t see what I’m refering to

Engine covers… (much like air intake cover which covers the air intake) cover things up so bird or FOD dont enter an engine when an aircraft is parked.

In automotive terms an engine cover is those silly plastic things which cover an engine to make it look pretty….

And no im not blind… and dont be a tosser.

Engine covers????? :confused:

I still cant believe the debate continues about the intakes and curves…

The top of the fuse does not match the intake location.
Maybe for some aerodynamic reason that it has those curving sections which flow from the actual aircraft spine.. ?

Possible… I got the impression though that the expression was used here in this sense:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boilerplate_(spaceflight)

Yes but in that sense it means a “non-functioning” prototype… in his blog he says its actually worked

In late 1982, Pratt ground-tested a prototype “boiler plate” rectangular cross section (two-dimensional) thrust vectoring/thrust reversing exhaust nozzle on an F100 engine. This was brought about by aircraft manufacturer and government studies which showed a need for higher air combat agility and shorter take-off and landing distances by future fighter designs. In hindsight, this was a very important step in Pratt & Whitney’s involvement in the ATF program.

The F100 was used in the F15 and this prototype nozzle has the same design features to that which was fitted to the F15 MTD.

20yrs ago…. how time flys !!!!

Um… yes interesting read.. but hardly new

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-15_STOL/MTD