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Me I only report facts, I actually do aknoledged the delay to the LCA and said that it was the built infrastructure that matters more and that the LCA will come when it comes, I do the same thing here, o the lCA thread I post articles, here I did the same thing!!!!!!! Unlike you nationalists I do not claim that the LCA is stealth by design and can beat the Su-30MKi!:D

I wonder how I am the nationalist when I was not even the one who got personal, I can spend my life on any thread I like, this is not a dictatorship forum, believe it or not 😀

How was I negative about the FC-1 proove it, I simply repeat what CAC and the shamayel link says
how pathetic your arguments have become and the funniest thing is that you do not even defend yourself using aviation and arguments related to that, you use the nationalist excuse
NEWS FLASH I AM NOT THE ONE GOING AROUND CALLING OTHERS BESHRAM ALL THE TIME, YOU GUYS ARE.

CAT1, if I called you an sob, I doubt that your views would change, this is wat I have to put up with when I quesiton the FC-1, I am no nationalist, only pointing to obvious facts that certain real nationalists like to conviniently forget. My attitudes towards the FC-1 are from the CAC website and the link that our kind Shamayel has posted, I read 80% as capable in aerodynamics as a baseline F-16, I read an 8.5G limit compromise, from CAC, I read “approaches” the 3rd gen Chinese standard etc… Mind you for saying what these websites say, I was accused of being an sob, hope you understand some of the anger.
Now as far as your sd-10 comment, just because a missile range is longer does not make it better, if that was the case then we would be seeing more long ranged missiles rather than concentration on the TECHNOLOGY INSIDE THE MISSILE, like anyone else you have no idea how advanced the sd-10 will be, claims that it will be better than French missiles are premature! Do you know what kind of counter counter measures the sd-10 will have?
no
the way the missile will discriminate, the flight performance etc, then how can one claim that its better solely on range, come one that is rubbish just like the claim about the K-8 FBW being easily edited to develop the FC-1 FBW and the low amount of flights required, case in point, no wonder the ac has only flown so little in 8 months, it may well have an FBW but its own, not an edited version of the K-8 as phrozenflaer claims.

And Sd-10, the shamayel link talks about a sustained turn rate of 12.xx deg a second, go check it out, although it is not from CAC and not official, I have to take that into consideration since you have yourself used non CAC links such as stormpages to proove your points, we cannot suddenly become hypocrites when it suits us.

i won’t even bother with the “stealth by design ” FC-1 theme because people may start using foul urdu on me again 😀

oh great Golden Dragon, now you have become the biased liar and a moron who has selective reading problems 😀

Let us see how much I am a liar 😀

How could a Phrozenflame be a flamer

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now why would the Wm do that to such a non flaming guy

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the great claims of Phrozenflame as to how since the FC-1 FBW is based on the K-8 FBW, it should not take long for them to edit the codes and voila, you have the FC-1 FBW

so wait a sec ehre Goldendragon, are you bling and/or denyig that sd-10 has not said that the FC-1 is stealth by design and that the sd-10 is the best missile in the world and that french missiles are not the same tech level ? lol

As far as flaming, I have stuck to aviation, I do not go around saying you Chinese this and that like a little uneducated dog unlike others, I also do not call people sons of bxtxhxx in urdu like phrozen and PLA and then call others who stick to aviation as being flamers!

YES I AM A FLAMER FOR QUOTING that the FC-1 is about 80% as capable as the F-16 A in aerodynamics and that it is not stealthy and that you simply cannot edit K-8 FBW codes like an idiot and fit it on the FC-1, a fighter plane, not a trainer!!!!!!!! a different desig too!!!! lol,
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LCA super stealth claims by Indians? 😀

I am sure that PLA the great one can find us that quote in the archives or I will presume that him not posting that quote means that he has taken it back along with his all Fishbeds are Bison comments 😀
PLA and phrozen are all the same, all they do is say Indian this and that, but now we will find out where the stealth LCA comments come from. Not only do they call people sobs on publiv forums but now they call people b nationalities, grow the heck up you little girls.

Me a Liar?
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I never disbelieved that the FC-1 could have FBW, I said that the absense of wing fences does not mean that it does, that applies for any acs, i fact I even go on as to say, I dont disbelieve that……,, I believe that the Hurricane does not have wing fences, does it have FBW, no! The wing canbe reshaped and redesigned!
Don’t accuse me of being a liar when you do not understand what I said. And as far as the quad FBW on theFC-1, hmm I based this on all the reports posted on the thread translated by bablefish! Besides the translation given is poor, the one you gave, I would like a more accurate translation for reading purposes. My FBW issue is with the K-8 FBW being easily transferred to the FC-1 and a few editings later, voila, we have a new quad FBW for the FC-1 without many test flights!

“the advanced digital fax flies controls the system”
that is the FBW mention, uhhhh, Since Pakistan is a parterner in the project, maybe they should have an english version on the website of cac, advanced digital fax files!!!

Dont try to address things that people do not disbelieve crobato, I was more quesitoning of the FBW k-8 issue and the great stealth by design and the great high tech fighter that it will be compared to the Su-30Mks of the PLAAF!!!!!!!

please do see sd-10postings for details
also the gem of the sd-10 missile being the best missile in the world better than French ones etc and him not backing such claims up except with china can do this and that, more nationalistic BS.:D

WRONGGG

Noone is disputing the possibility of an FBW but the statements by some that its easy to have an FBW for the FC-1 since we simple have to edit the K-8 FBW codes!!!!!

Crobato

lol
How can quoting an article be lying!
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-FC-1 is a Med tech fighter
-acheaved or approaches the 3rd gen standard (4th western)
-8.5G compromise
-SD-10 talked about stealth by design, not me, I said that it was RAM coating
-As per the Shamayel article, 80% as capable i aerodynamics as an F-16A.

phrozenflae
can your racism be more obvious, again you come out with Indian this and that tsk tsk tsk, this behavior is so sad.

Do we actually have a breakdown of what they will be testing next for the LCA, if the LCA has already gone supersonic and performed high g manouvers, the only thing left is to weaponize the plane and see how it performs with a weapons loadout.
So we have the TD1,TD2,PV1, PV2 soon to join the fun and the 8 limited series production acs that will scramble to complete the flight certification requirements.

As Atre said, LCA will enter service by 2007 with the 8 limited series production acs.

All empires come and go, I can simply open up a history book and see how the Persians, Indians, Egyptians, Chinese, Sumerians etc, al went through this path as well but they all fell, so has Britian.