Hi Air Ministry,
“Naaah, that’s just a twin-engined Chipmunk!”
There’s definitely a family resemblance. Now that’s a homebuild-Chipmunk conversion I’d like to see!
Hi blackjet64,
There is a small grain of truth in this. There was one Sea Hornet TT193/CF-GUO being operated in Canada, initially for cold weather trials, and latterly as a privately owned aerial mapping aircraft.
I’ve not managed to get the complete picture, but either Mr.Goodlin was unable to purchase TT193/CF-GUO due to it being in use at the time, or by then it had become unservicable due to lack of spares.
In any case, this was the only Sea Hornet in Canada, and it never became a racer.
Closer to home in the UK however, one Hornet F.3 PX386 was indeed prepared as a racing aircraft for the 1949 King’s Cup. I researched and provided the scheme (with assistance from Mark Gauntlett) for this rather splendid die cast 1/72 desk top model a couple of years ago.
I think this is a very interesting and smart move by TFC! There are clearly a number of issues surrounding the Bristol engines at this moment in time which require further examination and rethinking of 1940’s technology, processes and design.
In the meantime they have gone to what I should imagine are very long lengths and mountains of CAA paperwork to add the R-2800 as an option and get the aircraft back up as a usable asset until such time as the Centaurus can be proven viable.Who knows their experience with this project might enable other reworks or stop gaps allowing other aircraft with engine hold ups to be considered viable projects again.
Matt
Hi Matt, I must applaud you for making the most sensible, and considered response to an O.P. about restorations I have read on this forum for ages.
You are absolutely right…. What point is there having an aircraft if you can’t fly it, due to a major component such as the engine becoming an ongoing achillies heel.
As you state, It would be excellent to know if TFC have indeed made the necessary calculations and mods to fit an alternative engine, within the CAA’s guidance. It could help out on other Tempest and Sea Fury installations too.
Great work Ian,
Its the first step towards some impressive sheet metal work.
Excellent videos. Thanks for posting.
They had a Venom and a Vampire at about the time of its closure as a RAF Base.
Vampire F.I day fighter and Venom Night Fighter if I remember correctly.
……With the Allison engine, none of this is available so you need to do all the stress calculations, design an engine bearer, work out how the installation issues are fixed, design an exhaust, find a suitable prop and do all the test flying. Within EASA land (or even just the CAA in the UK) that is not going to happen.
Hi Archer,
All of this type of calculation and analysis, is a “normal days work” for many engineers.
Within Europe, If only an enthusiastic engineer could take this up in his/her spare time. It would certainly take much of the cost out of it.
Another photo has surfaced among my late uncle’s papers.
I don’t know anything about it. There are no notes written on the reverse.
The only aircraft that I recognize is the Spitfire, that looks like a late model PR variant.
Any/all comments warmly welcomed.
Richard
That’s an interesting photo. I’ve never seen a Martinet with checker-board markings on the engine cowling. I wonder what the colours were? Tim Bishop – have you seen this?
This really does look fantastic. Thank goodness it isn’t gloss!
Excellent work Ian and team.
Its good to see the undersides too. The roundel is still in place!
Last week, we installed the restored side panels, Trim wheel assembly; Hydraulic pump, pilot’s map case; and aligned the bottom Blind Flying Panel mounts.
Next game (subject to our tin basher not saying it will get in his way) will be to assemble the Compass mounting tray assembly…[ATTACH=CONFIG]251312[/ATTACH]
Still searching for the electrical and hydraulic components mentioned in the initial post, though!)
This really is a superb restoration.
Excellent progress. I’m looking forward to seeing it close up. Is it available to view in the museum?
Ouch, an expensive mistake. Thanks Richard for the further info.
I’d not seen this photo before but it’s obviously been around for a while
regards
John
John, you forgot this is a SPITFIRE forum! 😀
Not even a rocket powered Stirling is special enough to generate much interest.
….. I’ll get my coat,
Hi Dave,
First of all, congratulations to your team for securing a Sabre engine. This is a massive achievement, and to see this happen so soon after the public launch event, is a real boost.
The fuselage appears to be mostly there from the tail joint forward, right through to the engine mounts. I understand the project has a large amount of drawings to reference now. Are all of the drawings there to make the complete tail unit, and forward cowlings?
What is the plan regarding re-creating the wings? Do the drawings contain the co-ordinates for the ribs, or can you scan the RAFM example and reverse-engineer the shape in CAD?
Do you have any photo’s you could share for the undercarriage legs?
Once again, superb effort all round!
Hi Rogier,
This Vampire F3, VF347 would have been painted high speed silver/bare aluminum all over. It was coded ‘ZY-Y in 1949 at the time of the crash.