John/David,
Did you also had the items from BK710 such as the brow section and part of the lower canopy framing. When I got it the latter up from the lake it looked quite complicated.
Cees
Yes, thanks Cees. Pino has been using these to measure and create the CAD assembly for this coupe. In the mean time I’m preparing the fuselage jig CAD model.
Thank you very much for your comments Bill. The next pics are for you. Of course work on the centre section continues all the time. Occasionally, while waiting for new parts to arrive work stops, so other assemblies are tackled. This is what we are aiming for with the centre section:
Here is a reminder of what we started with – this is the burnt out, corroded centre section from Whitley N1498, the aircraft we are rebuilding. Some pics here with my friend Brian Dickinson at the site in 2001 http://www.scotcrash.homecall.co.uk/site20.htm.
Here it is today, on a very dark, wet and windy day, after a lot of hard cash and man hours and maybe even a few minor miracles… No expense has been spared to keep it is original as possible.
Excellent progress update Elliott,
Happy New Year to you all.
Lots of ‘stuff’ on the go at the moment: The rudder pedal assembly recently acquired from Air Ministry have been stripped down and is being prepared for re-assembly alongside the new build ones for the 2nd pilot. Throttle box is now about 90% complete, just needing some intricate machining work on the throttle lever cam followers and the starter panel.
CAD work on the cockpit coupe is also progressing well as can be seen below 🙂
John
It is a very difficult shape to reproduce. The minor surviving parts of this don’t join up, and the changes in curvature from one end to the other/side-to-side is quite subtle. Even having the top escape hatch, part of the side lower window channel, both DV quarter panels, and a piece of the central strip has been difficult to piece together.
Added to that, each piece of the finished CAD model will actually be an aluminium casting in reality, so each part will then need some adjustment for casting shrinkage tolerance!
“Dear Friends,
I have been made aware of a number of comments being posted through social media about the proposed sale of a part of the
Hangar 11 Collection and I decided best to lay out the facts from my standpoint.I started the collection in 1999 and since, we have built up an enviable set of amazing flying, active warbirds each unique in their own way. Personally, I have flown some 2000 warbird hours and too many hundreds of air displays to remember, over the last 15 years or so. Fact is that I really do have the Tee shirt and so many wonderful memories that will never be equalled in aviation.
However, the Hangar 11 Collection is a tough business to run , in organisational terms, in financial terms and most of all in emotional terms. It’s rather a drain to be honest and I am looking to reduce my workload as I am struggling to keep up with family commitments, work commitments and also to find the resources to complete our unique MK IX Russian Spitfire PT879.So a very hard decision was made to reduce the collection down to the pair of P51 Mustang and MK XI Spitfire and to concentrate on completing PT879, for which we need room in the hangar. I will of course carry on with my airshow work but frankly it isn’t a quick process to sell aircraft of this type, so I am not counting on any disruption to our 2016 season. We are very relaxed sellers and are under no pressure until the right home is found for the P40 and Hurribomber.
Hope this helps to allay your fears and responds to the many emails I have received to date.
Happy Xmas and a peaceful new Year to all my friends and followers.
Fly safe
Peter”
It has been a pleasure seeing Peter’s collection of aircraft displayed at events, and safely operated from North Weald. All credit to him and his team.
Neither DH support or The RAFM Hendon have Mosquito drawings.
The Smithsonian do.
Hi,
Meteor Nightfighters are something I have a lot of restoration experience with. I will try to answer any questions you have.
The two main reasons I found for corrosion in the Meatbox are:
– Dissimilar metals. Aside from the steel screws in aluminium skin, the Meteor has steel air brakes on an aluminium structure, and steel undercarriage beams on an aluminium spar.
– Water traps. First make sure all of the existing drain holes are clear. If the airframe can’t permanently go inside, we found the best way alleviate internal water traps, was to seal the upper surfaces, and provide additional descreet drain holes in the lower surfaces.
I am a big fan of these too.
For the affected areas, the best way is to strip the paint off, carefully recording the layers of markings you find. Treat the corrosion you find, and then re-prime/re-paint.
Areas like the steel air brakes can be fully dissasembled, cleaned up, treated and then re-assembled.
The undercarriage bay steel reinforcements are the main issue if they are too far gone. Please make sure you have some suitable jacks and the airfraft is sufficiently secured before you start working in here. To get to anything major in the u/c bays requires some dismantling. Don’t attempt it without jacks!
There was going to be a Master I built circa twenty years ago. However the prospective builder weighed up cost vs potential return and bought a Spitfire instead.
I’ve inspected this collection of parts last year, and actually think it would have been cheaper to build a Master. All of the primary structure is wood, and if this is put into the hands of a specialist woodworking team (of which I can think of a couple in the Uk alone) this would be a realistic prospect to see it flying again.
Hopefully these substantial remains can be re-built into a complete airframe again one day.
It has got me thinking as to what 5mil£ get you built from bassically a 5 million budget today?
How much will it cost for Just Jane to fly?
I am thinking DEFIANT, any clues oh wise ones?
Der…
Obviously another 3 Spitfires!
😉 😉 😉
The aircraft has been restored over the past five years or so by museum staff, and now carries accurate colours and markings for the first time in many years.
Magnificent!
I can see myself paying a visit on Sunday.
Well done Bob and team.
As long as you treat it as entertainment, not documentary, it’s absolutely fine.
Moggy
How dare you!
😉
With all of the flak that VTTS have been subject to over the years from keyboard warriors (some maybe justifiable, most not) no-one can deny they haven’t “delivered” against the odds.
While personally I could be skeptical about TPM as a new group on their own, by combining forces with the VTTS fundraising machine may seem a good move.
Hi Venomnut,
Unfortunately, it is unlikely to be able to narrow down the search for it’s exact usage however, it is an early grip with the cover for the weapon release button which was either removed in service or fell off which, is why it was removed from subsequent issues to prevent a FOD hazard!
The lack of letters, ‘C’ and ‘M’ on the two buttons would also suggest a single seat application. So possibly, early Meteor, Venom, Attacker, export Vampire etc.
Given that time period too, there may well have been other ‘test’ or ‘experimental’ types which will have used this grip as well.
Oh, for a copy of AP1086, section 27J circa 1950-1970!
Martyn,
GYD
To add a correction to your statement here, it should narrow it down a litte more:
The following meteors all had spade grips, not stick tops.
F1, F3, F4, T7.
This grip is most likely a Venom or Attacker as you say. For sheer numbers produced, it is probably Venom but that is not possible to tell from the part number alone.
That is some nice progress.
Edging closer to a good start. Would be nice to see a substantial cockpit structure evolve.
Looking forward to meeting you next weekend John.
Cheers
Cees
Hi Cees,
If you are meeting John on saturday, then I’ll be with him!
It will be good to meet you too.
John,
That’s a good pointer to how long this is going to be!
Having acquired 98% of the original instrument and component fit for the pilot instrument panels of the J.A.M. “Car Door” Hawker Typhoon 1B project; we are now left with the following missing items which we have been unable to source as of yet.
2x Thermotank Punkah Louvres (27H/421.) Fitted right up to Shackleton/Pembroke/Canberra/ Vampire, etc.
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1x Flap Indicator.
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This was used on Hawker Aircraft from the Hurricane to the Sea Fury; but it looks as though we might have to reverse engineer an example.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Hi Windhover,
Alan Hulme has some Punkah Louvres. There were definitely some on his stall at Newark this year.
They look a similar size from memory as the ones you are looking for.