Good work Cees,
Remind me, will you be replicating a glazed nose, or turret nose type?
Hi Cees,
As I’ve said before, you are doing great work here. Having your own project thread is often the only way people can follow your work, as the printed media tend to only feature flying rebuilds, or static projects once they are completed.
You must have good drawing references to work from. Some of these assemblies you have shown us look wonderfully complex.
Hopefully in the not to distant future, I can come over to visit?
Hi Chox
Out of all of the TT20’s WM224’s colour scheme ended up unique.
There were two schemes used in the fleet, but late in its carreer, WM224 damaged its tail according to its movement cards, and was given the complete rear fuselage from another of the fleet. See photo from Robin A Walker.
It ended up with the rear fuselage colour scheme from one type, and the front fuselage colour scheme from another. Compare this with the other photos posted here.
To back this up, when we started stripping the aircraft in the 80’s we found serial numbers from another aircraft (I think in the WD range) on several of the parts.
Sorry, I cannot recall the dayglo markings on the wings.
A photo has just come to light showing the damage made to WM224’s original rear fuselage, when it was actually hit by a shell.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=190296501416
2 bfp mounts (just the shock mounts) sold for £84
Is this the going rate or a case of auction fever?:confused:
So, I needed a pair! You try making them for less. 😀
Hi Chox
Out of all of the TT20’s WM224’s colour scheme ended up unique.
There were two schemes used in the fleet, but late in its carreer, WM224 damaged its tail according to its movement cards, and was given the complete rear fuselage from another of the fleet. See photo from Robin A Walker.
It ended up with the rear fuselage colour scheme from one type, and the front fuselage colour scheme from another. Compare this with the other photos posted here.
To back this up, when we started stripping the aircraft in the 80’s we found serial numbers from another aircraft (I think in the WD range) on several of the parts.
Sorry, I cannot recall the dayglo markings on the wings.
Would love to see a picture of it! Any ideas what happened to it?
Scrapped I believe.
My airframe design lecturer at Hatfield in the early 90’s was Martyn Pressnell. In his former job, he worked for Aviation Traders, and he was on the design team for this Mystery Jet. According to him, it was pretty much a non starter from the off, as it had such a high take-off and landing speed, for what was in essence a Biz-jet conversion of a military trainer. Great concept, but not practical unfortunately.
Before this Martyn was at Handley Page, and worked on the Victor, and Jet Stream design teams – really interesting guy to talk airframes with.
Hi Chox
I may be proving myself wrong here regarding upper wing roundel position/size! But see attached photo of WM224 taked circa 1979 at North Weald airfield, shortly after it moved from the carpark of the Kings head pub.
You can see the upper wing roundels clearly. It is still in its TT colour scheme, albiet faded after 10 years outside.
If anyone can tell me who the people are in the photo, I’d appreciate it – I have the original photo.
Last december in the Museum of Berkshire aviation.
Another thing which seems a bit unclear is the application of the Meteor’s upper wing roundels and dayglow paint. On the silver machines it looks as if the dayglow comprises of a strip along the outer leading edge, plus stripes running chord-wise. On the later grey aircraft it’s unclear whether there is only a leading edge stripe, or if the dayglow extends right across the outer wing. My guess is that it goes right across the outer wing as this seems to have been standard practise on similarly-painted JP’s and Canberras, etc., but I haven’t seen any photographic evidence to support it. Likewise, it’s difficult to establish the size and position of the wing roundels. There seems to be a lot of confusion over this matter on later Meteors – for example some references show the FAA/FRU Black T7’s with large roundels outlined in white, but photographic evidence suggests that they were actually small roundels not outlined. My guess is that on the CAACU Meteors the roundels were small – unless anyone has evidence to the contrary?
It’s all very confusing!
Hi there,
Having personally paint stripped the upper wing roundels off WM224 in the 80’s, I recall them being the same size/proportions as on the NF.11. I have a photograph taken from above prior to stripping. I’ll scan/post it here shortly.
I have quite a few photos of Exeter Meteors (and Vampires) but only a few scanned on this computer at present. They really need a good Photoshop to remove the fungal growths that have attacked many of my old Kodachromes.
These mostly date from 1968 or later, and show TT20s WD630 ‘Q’, WD647 ‘S’, WD679 ‘T’ with ‘U’, ‘V’ with later light grey paint, and the sole T7 VW478 ‘P’.
Hi James,
Great photos! Do you have any others showing WM224, X?
Many thanks,
… or any of the Sea Hornets.
The Air Britain website has colour photos showing the TT.20 Meteors it operated. Most are taken in the late 60’s to 1970. There are two schemes evident.
Fantastic Cees!
Good stuff! 🙂
Well done to all of your team past and present.
I believe the 3-piece Suit is also a British invention if you go back a few hundred years. For formal and business matters, this has been adopted globally.
According to a TV program I saw once, this could(should) actually be classed as the British National dress.