Lovely colour scheme.
Which squadron does this represent?
I am familiar with 80 Squadron based Hornets, and their spinners were painted to distinguish between Blue or Red flight, and white was reserved for the CO.
Is this the same for this aircraft?
David,
The A-10 canopy was given to us by a local Collector.
We also have an F-16 canopy and have recently acquired a very rare B-45 Tornado canopy! 😀
Regards.Graham
Hi Graham, I’ve sent you a private message!
I remember the B29 arriving. Was its aquisition always intended to form the basis of an American museum or tribute? Or did anyone ever think of painting it as an RAF Washington?
The Sea Fury unit isn’t compatible with the Tempest. It would be far easier to take one to the U.S and fit an American radial instead. As for value – hard to quantify but the number that have lept into the air in the last thirty years is a good indication of the level of interest
Without drifting this thread into “re-fitting” another radial into this airframe type thread, if an aircraft were to have an alternative type of powerplant fitted, in the UK would this effectively become a new type, and would it need type approval accordingly? Is there a process that exists that would cover this here?
For example in the world of light avaition, a particular airframe can support various types/makes of engines. If an an engine has similar torque + power output, revvs, adaptable systems, and is compatible with the sort of flight envelope originally intended for a type, can this also be substituted for another?
The fundamental problem with the Tempest – either version is the engine.
As the other thread on Sabre survivors shows, there arent many, and very few that would be good enough to restore to flight status.
With the Centaurus, the Tempest uses a very early version of the engine, which again is a difficult problem to overcome. Not insurmountable – just expensive.
At the end of the day, the Fury/Sea Fury series represent a better and cheaper aeroplane, which I think is why these Tempest survivors have been sidelined.
I’d give it a home, but at what price?
Bruce
In the grand scheme of things, yes the Sea Fury is a better type, but the Tempest can still be looked at as a late WW2 “type” even though this particular “mark” didn’t enter service until post war. The Tempest II was one of the main types in the immediate post war TAF based in Germany. It would be great to see one in the air again.
Yes, the new acrylic is pants, and doesnt give an even finish; even on small parts.
You can still buy cellulose paint from many motor factors, as long as it isnt for painting cars. Thats what I am using at present.
Bruce
The last cellulose can I was able find was 12 months ago! Share your source with me! 😉
MW376
This surely represents a good project for someone to consider doing a flying re-build on?
I don’t know the cost, but surely an unfinished project like this represents the best oportunity to pick one up at a better price?
Let’s hope someone with determination and passion for British aviation can buy this and return it to the air. When would have the last Tempest flown? Late 50’s, early 60’s?
Panel colours
XM692, XH668
Simonitz used to do a cellulose satin matt black spray paint which was a perfect match for original RAF panels from the mid to late 40’s. I did all of the Hornet panels in this. It provides the depth of black required, plus a ready made patina, that only usually comes with age. Unfortunately cellulose has now been superseded by acrylic, and the formulation of this gives a slightly different shade of black.
Also, I have found the matt black was too flat and collected scuffs and dirt too quickly, and satin black was too glossy.
p.s. Good chipmunk panels!
Hello Peter
What a fascinating project you are doing! Thanks for sharing progress with us all on this forum. It is great to see an extinct type being recreated again.
Best of luck.
Bentwaters cold war jets museum
There is an A10 canopy at the Bentwaters cold war jets museum, that I believe was found in the local forest.
Ye gads – what hapenend to the other two? Not being used for raising marrows one would hope!
Well, I know one is spoken for, but I believe the last one is still available. I could put anyone interested in touch with the owner.
Did he say four !?! 😮
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Yes, if you zoom into the picture you can make out 4 tops. I now have the best two of these.
4 Hornet canopies found standing behind a greenhouse last summer! 🙂
de Havilland Sea Hornet NF.21….. another beautiful ac turned ugly!
One-way “exchange” of ideas
Verbal claims are countered by verbal denials…….what we need is hard evidence i.e. A Miles headed Tech Note in the Bell Archive or even a vague reference to Miles design data in a NACA report.
Remember that technology transferred from one company to another doesn’t even have to be in the form of files or hard evidence. It is just as likely that an idea was communicated verbally:
“Ok, so you predict pitch instability approaching Mach 1, due to inafective elevator performance? If you try an all-moving tail plane, this may over come the problem”
There you go, one idea communicated from A to B, without any files. 🙂