Andrew,
Presumably one of the Failsworth Fireflies.
Mark
Yes, one of the Failsworth Fireflies, underneath the Failsworth Sea Hornet wing! 😮 – that was still there in 1980!!
… scrapped Hornets and Sea Hornets in the UK?
Hornet fuselages survived in UK scrapyards until the late 60’s/early 70’s.
A wing from a PR.22 survived in a UK scrapyard until 1980!
attn. Kiteflyer
For some years we knew of a Lancaster wing tip in a garden at Hollesley in Suffolk, but the owner wasn’t keen to part with it. As boys he and his brother had dragged it home from the crash, a few yards a day over the course of a school holiday. Ever since it had stood in the garden as a rather large ornament. However just before he moved house we got a call to come and get it if we were still interested.
It has a few pock marks from air rifle fire but didn’t suffer too greatly otherwise.
It’s from ND453 of 635 Sqn, crash landed on 6th October 1944 near Bussocks House, Hollesley.
Jeff
Hello Jeff
I have sent you a private message.
I recall someone on the forum mentioning the name “Trenchard” before, though i cannot see that being the name for such a beautiful aircraft, as most aircraft in the RAF have names that either relate to meterological conditions ie “lightning, tornado, hurricane typhoon” or a name that pertains to winning ie victor, valiant im sure there are others but those are the only ones that spring to mind
At the time other projects developed with the French took on animal names, ie. puma, jaguar, etc.
As you say, there was a couple of definite themes running through British names. BAC was an amalgamation of English Electric (who had designed the Canberra and Lightning), Bristol Aeroplane Company, Vickers Amstrong (Valiant).
So it is a strong possibility that a name in the series of: Lightning, Tornado, … Typhoon, would have been chosen?
TSR2 name?
Did a name ever get chosen or discussed for the production TSR2??
… Imagine my suprise when looking through this thread and seeing a photo of myself at Hendon! I guess I cannot be held responsible for actually taking the photo then, as there is proof I was the wrong side of the camera. 😀
Theory #1
Hello Tony
Could these mounting points be for orange transparent screens that were fitted to several types? I have seen these on (not surprisingly) the Hornet and Piston Provost for example.
NZ Vampire F.1 survivor?
Could you elaborate on this comment? If true, I may have more info.
I have read of the remains of a Vampire F.1 TG443 located at Mapua in New Zealand, held by John Smith. The photo shown taken in the 80’s possibly shows the cockpit from this aircraft.
From the nz-serials.adf-serials website:
“Previously TG443 with RAF. Used as experimental aircraft in United Kingdom during 1948 when fitted with a DH Goblin 3 motro and a high speed metal canopy. Became instructional airframe 7072M in May 1953. Damaged in June 1953 and reconditioned before being stored. Prepared for shipment to New Zealand on 16 May 1955 and BOC with RNZAF 09 August 1955 as INST166 at No.1 TTS Hobsonville. Transferred to No. 4 TTS Woodbourne 02 April 1958. Reduced to spares 05 February 1960. Fuselage stored at Mapua.”
What about helicopters!
I suggest that helicopters have significantly changed our lives for the better.
The rescue missions done by helicopters alone must put several prototypes and production types very high on the “worthy” list?
Apart from Leonardo Davinci’s sketches of a helicopter like device, the following three are responsible for the genesis of the practical helicopter.
Breguet Brothers
Paul Cornu
Igor Sikorsky
Hi Roger
the canopies were changed on the production line after (I think) the first 60 aircraft. Some of these early ones were then modified in service.
The F.1 test aircraft still in existence are examples of this modification in service. The three test/trials aircraft I know of are the stored Canadian one, the second prototype at Yeovilton, and possibly one in New Zealand.
Vampire fighter canopies.
Appologes for the “thread creep” here, but on the subject of Vampires, it appears that no F.1’s are left fitted with the original windscreen and canopy design. All surviving examples appear to have been retrofitted with the latter type.
Does anyone know of an example of an early type 3 piece canopy/windscreen in a museum or store room anywhere?
Later type – first photo.
Early type – second photo.
Hello Scorpion89
The most internationally complete published list of surviving vampires can be found in the Warpaint series book on the Vampire.
Alan, I have sent you a pm! 😀
Cockpit interior reference
It would be interesting to see a reference book or website showing good photos of all historic military aircraft interiors and flying controls listed by type showing:
Instrument panels
Control column
Throttle
Rudder pedals
GGS
Seat
Original pilots notes are a good reference, but a modern detailed reproduction in colour that collected many types together would be really interesting. What are peoples thoughts here?
Whirlwind fighter project
Just a piccy of a few parts that will one day become a 1/4 Cockpit:)
Tony, I’ts good to see your Whirlwind fighter parts. As you say, “from small beginnings”.
The Hornet cockpit started with a throttle box and a few instruments too.