Hello 12jaguar
I have sent you a pm.
cheers,
Common skill sets
I personally know sheet metal workers, who have gone from aircraft to the racing industry, so the kinda skill (the one-of fabrication) you need is close or identical.
Since alot of restoration is metal work, my guess is that you would be in high demand. Aluminium shaping is a skill thats slowly dissapearing from the aviation buisiness, and ANY warbird project needs people who can do that.
have you tried talking to any of the companies?
You are right, there seems to be more commonality between the motor racing industry and the skill sets required in traditional aircraft manufacture, required for later day restorations.
I started out as a Formula One engine builder, where working to high accuracy on small batches was common place. Practically everything was hand made, and hand assembled. Replace “wood composites” with “carbon composites”, and there you have your similarities! I managed to get this job, because of previous experience at my local airfield working with, and learning from the older types (aircraft and people) 😀
Elliott,
Just a thought, why not sweet talk Dave Collins, Graham Adlam or Stuart Gowans to make you one? These 3 gents seem to be able to make almost anything 😀 Bex
Hi Bex
Thanks for the compliment 😮 but Elliott is right in saying how much a real one would be preferrable.
Incidentally Elliott, do the RAF Museum or the Science Museum collections have an example you could reference?
http://www.spitfirerestoration.com/ for drawings.
Anything by Crecy Publishers, Ian Thirsk/Phil Birtles/Stuart Howe for photo references.
There is a pole mounted F86 Sabre within the school at the former Bitburg airbase in Germany, that I found on one of my travels.
I like the Q/A at the bottom of the listing!
Q: Hi I dont really want the propeller but I would like to bid on the other Item in the photo…..Do he have his own teeth? Is he house trained ? 31-Aug-07
A: Hi. No sorry his teeth are missing and he has the odd accident at home ! The Propeller is far less trouble and a bit lighter.
😀 😀 😀
It is indeed a stunning looking aircraft.
Can someone enlighten me on the paint scheme. I see there are Canadian markings underside, RN topside, and something else on the rear fuselage – just curious?
Genius!
How will the British meeja report it?
“The first of a handful of restored Bristol Vulcan nuclear bombers has made a surprise first flight from Bruntingham airfield in Lincolnshire. Powered by 4 huge Olympic afterburning engines, the supersonic Vulcan was just too late for the second world war, but went on to serve the RAF and Australian Air force, as well as serving as the prototype of the Anglo-American Concorde airbus at many Farnborough air shows in the 1950’s. The Vulcan also served as an airborne tanker for the Vickers Victors which carried out the Royal Navy’s famous raids on Mount Pleasant airfield during the 1982 Falklands war, credited with putting Argentina’s deadly Pucara fighters out of action. With its twin bat-like wings and ability to carry both crew and bombs if required, the Vulcan was even said to be the inspiration behind the American B-2 Stealth Boeing. The hush-hush restoration was carried out at the top secret RAF base by British Aerospace personnel over the course of several weeks, but an RAF Ministry of Defence spokesperson refused to either confirm or deny the Vulcans would be pressed into service in Afghanistan”
😀 😀 😀 😀
I think the Vulcan may be the last type to be re-flown again, although I would love to be proved wrong. It will be hard enough to maintain types such as the Gloster/AWA Meteors and DH Vampire/Venoms that are less complex types, which are also getting thinner on the ground (well in the air) without many people noticing.
From the following list of types, we are fairly well represented, don’t you think?
I define the following as flyable or taxiable. Currently “live” post war British made jet types in the UK are:
Vampire
Venom
Vixen
Buccaneer
Meteor
Vulcan
Canberra
Lightning
Victor
Hunter
Comet
Jet Provost
Gnat
sea hawk
Others that are unlikely to ever move under their own steam again:
Swift
Javelin
Valiant
attacker
scimitar
And finally, are there any plans for people to make one of the following at least taxiable in the UK?
Harrier
Jaguar
Tornado
Hawk
Hi alan
I have sent you a pm.
cheers,
Hi Cees
My experience of working with these wartime parts, has also shown the absence of primer in many cases. The top coat was painted directly onto the aluminium. Just look at a lot of photos of cockpits of the time, and you will see a lot of flaky paint on vunerable edges!
For the sake of your project though, I would use an etch primer, and give it the best chance of longevity you can. Remember these old aircraft were never expected to be used for 60+ years. A few months life for some aircraft would have been a lot at the time, so priming components first would have seemed un-necessary in some cases.
From my experience in the ATC in the 80’s of “Guarding” ‘558 on the saturday overnight stop at the North Weald Fighter Meets on a couple of occasions, I don’t recall there being a huge amount of ground support equipment being present.
What did make me laugh was the “No-Step” symbol(s) on the underside of the wing though! Are they still there? Were they a ground crew prank, or are they indeed required?
Happy memories…
Hi Graham
I hadn’t seen a rounds counter before. However, I have seen a GA drawing of the Hornet instrument panels with a Rounds counter in place, that is of a linear gauge type, similar in look to the linear fuel gauges shown in the following photo.
Have you ever seen a linear rounds counter, as I have never seen a photo of one in a Hornet (not even the prototypes). It may have been in the initial paper design, but subsequently dropped for production?
…The quality of this rebuild appears second to none. Bruce
I couldn’t agree more! 😎
Sorry Dave, I did say some names escape me, but perhaps I shouldve added “Dave – Hornet” and “Dave – Gnat” 😀 LoL Didnt take me long to put me foot in it did it 😀
Dave Collins: Perhaps I am doing the same, but, so far I havent had to make anything from scratch………… Yet LoL
Bex
… From little acorns! 🙂