A famous set of phots, much reproduced at the time and since. If I were you I’d scan them at high resolution so you can print out some high quality copies and flog the originals on ebay, they’ll go for at least a tenner each I’d expect.
What was great about it, apart from the price?
As I explained in my book, the precise source of the term “TSR2” remains unknown.
Buy a copy of Damien Burke’s TSR2 book then, it’s in there. Page 68.
It’s also odd to note that even the TSR2 wasn’t actually called “TSR2” at all. It was in fact the Vickers-Supermarine Type 571. The term “TSR2” applied to the project rather than the actual machine.
Revisionist nonsense. BAC called it the TSR2 as did the RAF and the government. See page 96 of Burke for Vickers type number listing covering TSR2 – including 571 for development batch, 579 for pre-production batch, 594 for production aircraft.
I for one look forward to the RNHF operating a Phantom…
DOES ANYBODY READ THE THREAD PROPERLY THIS POSIBILITY IS NO LONGER A POSSIBILITY
Ah, so you’re saying it’s a certainty?
Count me in!! :diablo:
I’m up for it too.
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Damien’s book says Flight 16 was flown by Beamont not Dell.
I’ve got Damien Burke’s fabulous book on the TSR2 and I guess this would be either flight 19 on 11/3/65 – “Flight envelope expansion” or flight 20 on 12/3/65 – “Low-level performance”? No phots though.
The accounts state that the Lottery and C Walton Ltd both hold sizeable charges over the aircraft. It would thus be impossible to sell it, whether abroad or anywhere else, without the agreement of both. That would never happen so all this talk of it going to the USA or USSR is an outrageous lie.
If I was on 72K a year running a project in dire need of money I think I’d probably have enough put by for a rainy day to manage without my 72K for a year or two…
Russia
Wonderful – camo Victors, Scimitar, Jet Provost – I’m guessing 1963/64?
Then, to compare losses due to engine failure gets one nowhere.
It is a valuable guide as to the chances of safely operating the type in future. Something you appeared to care not one jot about.
The Lighting didn’t suffer from an undue number of engine failures, it suffered from engine fires.
Oh well that’s alright then I suppose! Good grief. Fires which often burned through the flying control connections!
Even so, the chances of a civilian-operated Lightning suffering an engine fire, a subsequent abandonment, and a crash which causes injury or death (when compared to a whole fleet operated exhaustively for decades), is pretty-much zero.
Again – (and with due respect Bruce, I am not treading on the SA investigation) there are photos showing ZU-BEX on fire before it crashed. That does not indicate the chances are ‘pretty-much zero’. I’m sure this fatal loss is inconvenient for your increasingly bonkers argument Chox but you cannot wish it away.
As for the Harrier, the situation is obviously more critical. Lose one engine and the aircraft is lost, but again it begs the question of whether it is therefore more likely to crash on someone’s house than a Hunter or a Jet Provost?
Again your ignorance shows. Go away and learn something about the Harrier and its systems compared to a Hunter or Jet Provost.
Which is obviously also 30th Anniversary of Black Buck – the last operational mission
…until Black Buck 2. And 3. And 4… 😀