Or this….
Taken at Lossie by my late father during winter 1962/63.
Oh I say 😎 Any more?
When I enquired about the Javelin at Cosford I was told it was pretty much an empty shell with some added reinforcement inside to redirect some of the loading to more suitable parts of the structure.
Guess we have to agree to disagree. Naturally, you can claim that the Lighting is “advanced” when compared to the Canberra but it isn’t. It’s a very conventional aeroplane – albeit a very fast one. Agreed, it has more complicated systems but my point was that it is scarcely different to the Canberra in terms of engineering and vintage. As you say, hydraulics could be one issue and reheat is another, but my point was that the CAA make subjective decisions on whether such systems are judged to be “complex” and therefore “risky” for civilian approval. Clearly, a Lighting in the hands of very experienced tradesmen is far safer to operate than a whole fleet which was once used exhaustively for high-performance operational use, but the CAA evidently don’t see things like that. I think their attitude is vaguely insulting as it presupposes that very experienced technicians are somehow incapable of safely maintaining one aeroplane when (in the RAF’s hands) it was perfectly acceptable to operate a whole fleet. Just doesn’t make sense.
I often chuckle to myself at your long posts but this one is by far the funniest so far and betrays a breathtaking ignorance of the complexities of aircraft engineering, systems and operation that is particularly surprising coming from someone who has written books on various aircraft types including the Lightning. Do you just type out stuff from the manufacturers’ documentation, blindly uncomprehending, slap a few photos in and then forget it all and move on to the next subject?
I don’t want a Lightning – or Harrier – dropping on my head, or my neighbour’s head, or even your head (I quite like Lightnings and wouldn’t want to lose another) – and the CAA are 100% right to want to see absolute proof that such a type could be operated safely in civilian hands. When it couldn’t be operated safely in RAF hands, that is naturally going to be nearly impossible. Thankfully.
While we’re at it – can anyone identify this Gannet?
The serial is written under the wing, it looks like it would be legible on your original print – though not quite on this small scan.
Every so often the internet throws up a wonderful, wonderful item like this. Shame there’s no jet noise!
No you fools, I said “Desert pink!”
Sight-seeing Dak? I thought that Air Atlantique/Classic Flight had to stop Dak flights because of “EASA Rules”. So how come a Dak can carry out sight-seeing flights in Germany, the home of EASA, when the type can’t be used any more in the UK?
Because there was never a problem with the rules. Look closer to home.
A direct bit of fallout from the TFC fiasco it appears.
I thought that the show was, as always, amazing. Well done and thanks to all that made it possible. The pink colour of the Victor IS correct as clearly, it would have quickly weathered to near hemp in the desert conditions. Indeed, I can remember aircraft going out in exactly that shade of pink and the comments that it generated back in 1990.
More tripe. Remarkable how the Jaguars, Bricks and Tornados didn’t “weather to near hemp” isn’t it.
Gentlemen,
Below, you will see a line in the sand. I think its time we stayed this side of it…
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Can we ave a bit of hemp coloured hawser instead please? :diablo:
For those getting hot under the collar about it all, I applaud any effort to keep an old aircraft – even a crab one – in good nick, and a crawl over 715 found lots of cleverly and discretely done skin repairs to go along with the repaint. I remember when you could see daylight through the ailerons. There’s obviously been a lot of effort put into the job and those involved have done a smashing job. Mistakenly applying a gash paint colour is a minor thing at the end of the day and is no discredit to those who worked hard at the restoration effort.
However… trying to rewrite history to try and justify what is clearly a mistake just makes you look silly and should have no place in a Historic Aviation forum. End of dit. Off for a pink gin. 😮
If I rub down a Jaguar, for example, I will find a lovely yellowy-green hue of primer. Would you then say that this was an authentic paint scheme for the type, regardless of zero photographic proof? Actually, that may explain the hideous concoction on the main gate at Brunters!
Don’t post tripe and you won’t have to read it afterwards. Have a pink smiley. :p
The panel is from an Attacker. Quite a rarity.
Perhaps the pink you saw was tripe.
What utter tripe! I saw every Victor coming back from the Gulf and every single one was in Hemp.
Actually it is on the outskirts of Norwich at County Hall, here:
…but the satellite view is not up to date enough to show it.
Arrival: