Just out of curiosity, how many Peregrines were made, how many survive, and what is the creative lineage behind the peregrine… ie. what engine was it derived from … Kestrel?
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Richard
I found a bunch of strange confetti inside an RA-24B Banshee I was taking apart for rebuild a few years ago. The Banshee (Dauntless) was used by MGM as a wind machine at one time, and we figured that this stuff must have been from those days. We also found an NOS panel, rattling inside the wing section, with no possible way for it have found its way in there other than being sealed up by accident during the original manufacture of the aircraft. There were a number of really bad manufacturing faults on this airframe to be honest, such as rivets shot through the skin attached to absolutely nothing, rivets hit too hard, or not enough, and even the odd smiley face here and there… Makes you wonder if the plane was made on a Monday 😀
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Richard
The control column is for sale at Spitfire Spares (Graham Adlam?). The crash seems to have happened in Russia though, not Norway.

http://www.spitfirespares.com/SpitfireSpares.com/Pages/controls5.htm
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Richard
Obviously a photo shop creation.
Not at all… forced perspective from the lens makes things appear a little un-natural like this. I’ve seen lots of photos like this that were perfectly real.
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Richard
There’s one still flying in the US, or at least the was very recently. I believe it was based in Texas and flew regular short cargo flights. I saw one in Alaska back in 2007, about a month before she was lost in a freak accident… thankfully, the crew walked away from the crash. There is one other survivor, which sits engineless somewhere in Africa if I remember correctly. An interesting and pretty bizarre aircraft.
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Richard
Hi
No photos found so far, but you never know..
apparently story is RNEC thought the RAF thought it was a helo, hence the old quote ‘we already have one’, so it got burnt.
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Jerry
I guess I can see how that might have happened… what a travesty!
Richard
Hi
personal theory only,
But my bet for a holy grail would be the florida area.
P6994 went to a scrappie there and the peregrines went into a speedboat, after the USN finished with it.who knows it/they may still be around.
( for example last year I worked on two ex ww2 U boat engines being used a generators here in canada.)
But if the raf hadn’t turned down the one offered to them in the early 70’s, we would have one. ( burnt at an RNEC Manadon family day fire fighting demo)
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Jerry
Never heard about one surviving into the seventies… any details/photos? Seems a travesty to have survived that long only to be burnt!
Richard
The turret cuppola looks like the mid-upper from a Lancaster… not sure about the propellor.
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Richard
I think the only real reason the MOD is reluctant to act is because it might set a precedent. If they recover the remains from one location, then they will have to do so for all, which I imagine they perceive as an unneccessary expense. This is ridiculously calculating and callous of course, but it’s not easy to find someone in any beaurocracy willing to stick their nose out for what they probably view as unnecessary personal risk.
In this case it seems highly likely that the remains will be found relatively easily. Mores the point, the positions of both wrecks were clearly marked in the court case… there’s no way that sport divers are all going to avoid disturbing the site. Common sense, and decency says that any human remains should be recovered, and interred within proper procedures.
Richard
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the Heinkel 111 (CASA) nose grafted on to the ATC tower at Camarenilla in Spain. Shown below is the photo from Mikel Olrog’s fabulous Preserved Axis Aircraft website…

Always wondered why they did this… but it is pretty cool looking!
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Richard
Richard
You want Issue No. 32 and here is a link to the website to help you order it:
http://www.britain-at-war-magazine.com/
Peter – yes, the aircraft are very well preserved and very deep in very cold fresh water.
Andy Saunders
Many thanks Andy… just ordered the issue, and really looking forwards to reading it!
All the best,
Richard
Its all I am allowed to post for now. However, the magazine (just published) that xtangomike mentioned has a number of other images of the aircraft.
Discussions are underway for a documentary to be made next year with extensive underwater filming. This will involve working from the ice above and cutting a hole for divers and ROV’s. If it happens, I hope to be there. The conditions are at their optimum (apart from the cold!!) whilst there is ice cover – including being able to take trucks out on the ice – and the biological activity is minimal and visibility at its best.
Fascinating news! I understand you not being able to post any more of course… too bad though. I am interested in the magazine, but it’s not available over here in the US. Any chance you could give me the specific issue it’s in so I can order it?
Cheers,
Richard
PS. Sure hope the documentary comes through… and that somehow these poor airmen can be recovered.
Here is a “taster” of some of the images we secured…..
Any chance of some more images? The condition looks extraordinary!
All the best,
Richard
It’s a pile of scrap as it sits there and if put in a museum it’s still a pile of scrap.
Why not make something out of the metal?
Seriously something could be constructed from it i don’t mean melt it down but build a table or a bench & put that in a museum and use it rather than just as it is.
Im sure you can think of a better idea than a table or a bench?
Philistine!!!
That’s a cracking idea. I’ll suggest that to my local museum!
Cool! I wish you good luck… personally, I think it would be a big draw!
Cheers,
Richard