I don’t see why an internal mirror would be such a problem. You aren’t really able to see a clear image in either case anyway… it’s the detection of movement, indicating someone approaching your tail which is vital. In any event, many american fighters had internal mirrors throughout the war, such as the F4U corsair. I have one of these mirrors, and they are incredibly good reflectors, with a finely ground surface. Many post-war jets also had internal rear-view mirrors as well.
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Richard
There is a replica/mock-up at Cradle of Aviation that they built a few years ago. I believe that the Dutch museum which acquired the remains of three Buffaloes a few years ago from Chris Prevost has contracted the guys at Cradle of Aviation to reconstruct a Buffalo from these remains. The US Navy Museum is also working on the cosmetic restoration of their former Finnish Air Force buffalo. Other than that, there are no publicly acknowledged Buffalo projects going on at present.
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Unlikely to be american, as the windscreen is referred to as a windshield over here in the states. Sorry can’t help much more than that though. Best of luck.
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Richard
When I was at Uni. in Leicester, back in ’87 I went out for a cycle ride with a friend… stopping at a pub now and then of course. We were cycling down a small hill on a country lane when a canberra flew so low and fast that it seemed almost below us at the time… it was a real shock, and a magnificent sight! Always wondered where the Canberra had come from… Wyton I guess, but Blackbushe was very close… can’t remember if that was still a BAe base at the time, or owned by Doug Arnold.
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Richard
You could spend hours looking through that site! Fascinating stuff, and thanks for posting!
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Richard
There’s a fellow in Ontario, Canada who has some substantial remains, mostly wing structure. If I remember correctly, he has a lot of other airframes, mostly 50’s jets, which are used as movie props. Cheers. Richard
The fuselage of the Finnish example (a Humu) is actually an original Brewster-built aircraft. Only the wing (a wooden one) is of Finnish design and manufacture. The reason they didn’t continue building Buffalos was only in part because of the management problems. The landing gear of the Brewster was pretty fragile, and didn’t do well in carrier landings, however more significantly, when the aircraft was updated with all of the Navy requirements for armor, self-sealing fuel tanks etc. (the -3 version) it was pretty underpowered. Apparently they could not upgrade to a bigger engine (unlike the F4F), so it was easy meat for zeros (at Midway). That was a very big reason they didn’t carry on building buffaloes.
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Very cool!!! Does anyone know where the original parts came from? Are there any serial numbers associated with it either? How is the rest of it being refabricated (ie. accurate construction – vs. – slapped together to look externally corract)? Very keen to hear more.
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Richard
While I have to agree that it would have been lovely to have saved more… especially at least one of the extinct types… I must also say that part of their magnetizing appeal is the fact that they are so rare. It lends an aura of mystery and amazement at all those that still survive. If there were several hundred of each type still moldering on, I think we would be somewhat blase about many of them. You only have to consider the lack of interest in some of the more recent types which are rapidly vanishing to realize that. Just my thoughts though.
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There is also a Sandringham (Civilianized Sunderland) at Le Bourget, near Paris. Also, you can see walk arounds of all the surviving Short’s four engined flying boats at this website… pretty interesting!
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Richard
This is an interesting thread. I think that East Kirkby is an excellent center for these aircraft projects. I had no idea that the Weighbridge Wellington had been fully restored internally and covered… when I saw it last (about ten years ago) it was a bare fuselage, and I was told it was being left that way to display the structure more readily. I think this fuselage would go perfectly at East Kirkby, considering they already have a fully restored Wellington at Weighbridge. If there is a will, there is a way.
What about the Whitley that’s under restoration… now that would be a great complement at East Kirkby too. Not to mention the large sections of Stirling that are in France.
A museum/memorial to Bomber Command would be terrific, and I can think of no more appropriate place than East Kirkby, especially if you could restore all of the exhibits to ground running status…. now that really is a great dream (however impractical or difficult to realize in reality)!
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Richard
Galdri… I agree with you to a point… could be any sleave-valve engined aircraft. However, I think you forget that some Beaufighter variants were also equipped as torpedo bombers as well, which very much puts it in the anti-shipping bomber-type.
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I noticed on their website that they emptied more than 250 abandoned cars from the lake, cleaning it up. Seems a little ironic that they are now happy to fill it again with our aircraft… and armoured personnel carriers by the looks of it too. What a strange thing to do! Not to mention, wasteful!
Richard
I’ve been to Walt’s place a couple of times, and found him to be a very charming, if highly eccentric chap. He happily showed me around, and talked about the stories behind many of the aircraft.
Walt doesn’t like visitors much any more. They usually can only come when accompanied by one of his friends. He is very wary of people these days, as so many have tried to take advantage. His collection has been pilfered by quite a number of people over the years, stealing data plates, and other important items, which is a good reason to be so careful.
He has parted with several of his aircraft over the years, but he told me that after he sold the last (can’t remember if it was the F-82, or the F2G) he got into quite a bit of trouble with the local authorities, as his neighbours complained that he was operating a business, which the land was not certified for. The neighbours have gradually crowded in around his piece of land, and most regard it as an eyesore (it really does resemble an overgrown scrap yard, which is candy to us lot, but not to many outside our fraternity). Anyway, if he was operating a business then he’d have to do a great deal to improve the conditions of his property…. something he has neither the energy, nor where-withall to complete at his advanced age. I am sure there are ways around this, but he is a very private person (as he has every right to be) and probably does not want the intrusion that such a thing would likely bring.
Walt’s sons are well aware of the value of his collection, and I am sure that they will treat it properly upon his passing. Walt is probably the last of the great early collectors, certainly the eccentric ones. The only other chap still going strong who started so early collecting rare airframes is probably Ed Maloney.
Hope this helps… give the guy a break too, he deserves our thanks, and admiration.
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Richard
John, what a fascinating story! Many thanks for the details. It’s great that such a historic machine survives and is well looked after.
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Richard