As a new participant in the forum, I have read much good information and some myths. Neither the British nor German government admit to the fact that the Luftwaffe was NOT completely disbanded but kept in readiness for re-establishment fully in the early ’50’s. Nor was the German Navy.. and units of the Army were kept full equipped under various guises. And when you push beyond a certain point in historical research, doors close rather abruptly.So we must rely on aging RAF and Luftwaffe personnel, hoping their memories are still good. An interesting fact confirming what happened is that German military pensions include WWII uninterrupted!!
The part marked in red is the only true fact… as described in “Churchill`s German Army” in the 1977 book:
…during the summer of 1945. That`s all. :rolleyes:
Kesha
Very nice – I assume it’ll be at Frying Legends?
I wouldn`t egg on it… 😎
Thanks for the translation! 🙂
Again, this strikes me as unusual; a single unit that carried-out all these mission types.
I assume the reason for this multi-purpose units was simple math… :rolleyes:
The longer the war lasted, the less experienced pilots were left.
Thanks for the translation! 🙂
Again, this strikes me as unusual; a single unit that carried-out all these mission types.
I assume the reason for this multi-purpose units was simple math… :rolleyes:
The longer the war lasted, the less experienced pilots were left.
Mostly ground-attack missions then?
According to the website i`ve linked above, his unit was a kinda “jack of all trades device”:
“Aufklärung, Tagjagd, Fernnachtjagd und ab Beginn der Invasion auch für Tag- und Nachtschlachteinsätze”
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Recco, Day Fighter, Long Distance night fighter, and starting with D-Day, also Day&Night Ground attacks…
Mostly ground-attack missions then?
According to the website i`ve linked above, his unit was a kinda “jack of all trades device”:
“Aufklärung, Tagjagd, Fernnachtjagd und ab Beginn der Invasion auch für Tag- und Nachtschlachteinsätze”
=
Recco, Day Fighter, Long Distance night fighter, and starting with D-Day, also Day&Night Ground attacks…
Interesting… seems to be true:
http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.de/Luftwaffe/E/Eb/Eberspaecher-Helmut.htm
“Damit flog Eberspächer bis Kriegsende härteste Einsätze an der Westfront, so besonders während der Ardennenoffensive und gegen de Brückenkopf bei Remagen. Für seine Erfolge und Leistungen in dieser Position wurde er, als Hauptmann und Kapitän der 3. Staffel des Nachtschlachtgeschwaders 20, am 24.01.1945 mit dem Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes ausgezeichnet.
Weiterhin ist zu erwähnen, dass er während des Krieges etwa 170 Feindflüge flog und sieben Luftsiege im Westen erzielte, davon drei in der Nacht.”
In short:
He flew all of his missions at the Western Front, in particular during the Bulge and against the Remagen bridgehead and got his Ritterkreuz on 24.01.45 for all of this missions.
Flew 170 sorties during the war and shot down 7 enemy aircraft, 3 of them on a night mission.
Never heard of him before, besides the fact that his company later produced “Ebersbächer park heatings” for cars, which are well known over here…
Interesting… seems to be true:
http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.de/Luftwaffe/E/Eb/Eberspaecher-Helmut.htm
“Damit flog Eberspächer bis Kriegsende härteste Einsätze an der Westfront, so besonders während der Ardennenoffensive und gegen de Brückenkopf bei Remagen. Für seine Erfolge und Leistungen in dieser Position wurde er, als Hauptmann und Kapitän der 3. Staffel des Nachtschlachtgeschwaders 20, am 24.01.1945 mit dem Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes ausgezeichnet.
Weiterhin ist zu erwähnen, dass er während des Krieges etwa 170 Feindflüge flog und sieben Luftsiege im Westen erzielte, davon drei in der Nacht.”
In short:
He flew all of his missions at the Western Front, in particular during the Bulge and against the Remagen bridgehead and got his Ritterkreuz on 24.01.45 for all of this missions.
Flew 170 sorties during the war and shot down 7 enemy aircraft, 3 of them on a night mission.
Never heard of him before, besides the fact that his company later produced “Ebersbächer park heatings” for cars, which are well known over here…
All Russian researchers I have talked to about this enemy equipment display say they were eventually scrapped-hardly makes sense to dig up a public park and bury them does it?
Yep.
I`m living right between the Dutch border and the Ruhr, aka the usual flight corridor of the RAF, and I know that most of the raw materials which fell down from the skies just went straight into the next furnace, of course after a short examination.
All Russian researchers I have talked to about this enemy equipment display say they were eventually scrapped-hardly makes sense to dig up a public park and bury them does it?
Yep.
I`m living right between the Dutch border and the Ruhr, aka the usual flight corridor of the RAF, and I know that most of the raw materials which fell down from the skies just went straight into the next furnace, of course after a short examination.
Thanks for that Kesha, great bit of footage.
They look like they are ready to be cranked up!
Some years ago i watched a interview with Vladimir Putin and he briefly mentioned that his father worked at Gorky Park, and after the war they buried the lot where they stood.
I tried to email the Kremlin at madvlad @redcomi , but still waiting for a reply, or a knock on the door, whatever comes first really!
Seriously though, great post.
Well… I`ve been in Moscow several times as my wife is a Muscovite but I really doubt that they buried that stuff in Gorky Park. 😉
As the Russians are indeed the practical people you Brits think we Germans are… I think that they just studied the tech, then used the amount of new knowledge for their own inventions, melt down the metal or just used it against the enemy.
As far as I know, the JU52 was part of a North Pole exploration in the late 40’s.
Thanks for that Kesha, great bit of footage.
They look like they are ready to be cranked up!
Some years ago i watched a interview with Vladimir Putin and he briefly mentioned that his father worked at Gorky Park, and after the war they buried the lot where they stood.
I tried to email the Kremlin at madvlad @redcomi , but still waiting for a reply, or a knock on the door, whatever comes first really!
Seriously though, great post.
Well… I`ve been in Moscow several times as my wife is a Muscovite but I really doubt that they buried that stuff in Gorky Park. 😉
As the Russians are indeed the practical people you Brits think we Germans are… I think that they just studied the tech, then used the amount of new knowledge for their own inventions, melt down the metal or just used it against the enemy.
As far as I know, the JU52 was part of a North Pole exploration in the late 40’s.
Wonder if they will send the bill to the UK government?
Don`t worry… the legal bearing of this case is that it was a assignment of property. As the UK never claimed for a reassignation of the cookie, it`s now German property.
I`m serious on this. 😎
A fairly large chunk of a wing has been exposed on a newly-exposed part of the Rhine riverbed at Duesseldorf.
Blimey… I´m living nearby and didn`t notice this article!
Meerbusch, near Düsseldorf, about 4.5 meters long, possibly part of a P-51 wing:

You obviously have not heard about the fleet of aircraft carriers that Germany had tucked away, made of an ersatz version of Pykrete, they regrettably thawed out & dissolved into the Irish Sea…..
Hm… seems I´ve missed this one on History Channel. :p
However, I can`t see any reason why they shouldn`t have coded a Ju-88
or HE-111 into their Macs… it`s CGI, after all.
But anyway… ich liebe Merkwürdiges, Herr Doktor. 😎