This is a great opportunity for a single-seat L-15 to appear and steal the show…
What does this mean really for the FC-1?
1. China could cancel the RD-93 deal and drop the FC-1
2. China could reverse engineer the RD-93 and sell the FC-1 anwyay
3. China could seek out a new engine for the aircraft and market it as suchOption 1 seems the most likely given the current set of circumstances. The J-10 is now a public project, meaning that it is that much closer to the export market. China could still offer the J-7MF as an upgrade (by only replacing the forward fuselage ahead of the cockpit to give the new intake and radar housing) for potential FC-1 customers that may have existed (Egypt?), or they can opt for the J-10 now (Iran?). The L-15 would be just as capable as the FC-1 in some areas, perhaps all of them (and maybe even superior in a few with the right equipment), so it could be developed as a single-seat fighter for the export market in the same vein as the Hawk 200 was developed by BAe. This might be the best route, as China really has no real need for the FC-1 when they have far more capable aircraft either in service or in development. If they really need a point defense interceptor to replace the J-7, then the single-seat L-15 would be cheaper and offer a more sensible logistics solution as the aircraft will already be in service in trainer form.
Pakistan may lose out in the end unless they purchase the J-10, but China should be fine with that, given the potential for the L-15 to have more export success as a cheaper, dual-use platform. China doesn’t need the FC-1. Pakistan has other options. China should not restrict itself by pushing the issue just to satisfy one single customer, a customer who really isn’t that important in the grand scheme of things anyway. Think about it. The J-7MF upgrade could be applied to MiG-21s and J-7s across the globe, providing them with a new radar, new cockpit, and a BVR AAM in the form of the SD-10. Want a new jet? Buy an L-15. Have a little bigger budget? Buy an F-10 (assuming that the export J-10 would be F-10 in the same manner that exported J-7s are F-7s in most cases).
they can’t sell J-10 to the ****.those have russkie engine too and I seriously doubt the chinese is willing to sell the j-10in thr first place that why there even FC-17 program for export only this jets were never be in the PLAAF inventory!.they still don’t want it!.perhaps to save some face about 50+ jet will be built.
[QUOTE=SOC;1071193]Then China should get its house in order before thinking about deploying ASAT systems. Or does Taiwan have a satellite network I didn’t know about? Apart from that error in logic, are you even familiar with the concept of a discussion or speculation?
if you can kill a sat 500+ mile above the earth you can also kill a nuclear warhead?. china look ready to deploy both the ASAT system and a ABM ntework.
KT-2
the KT-2 look anything liked the CG?.
You guys are fixated on the visual aspect, but the article mentions that it is intended to change the direction of electromagnetic waves. That means radar as well; this seems to be, potentially, a new stealth system along the lines of active cancellation.
well the article say that light will flow around the object.so I guess that you won’t even see the freaking plane at all even if it right in front of you.the light have to bonce back to your eyeball’s to see any image!.
for a $100 million I expect alot more than this!. the cockpit look god awful.and what the 2 cage suppose to be? in the 1st pictures a air freshner!.
HJ-10 thanx to huitong for the pic!
the HJ-10 look liked the south african Mokopa !
The Mokopa is a South African air-to-ground missile, designed primarily for use as an anti-tank weapon. It is currently in its final stages of development, and is being integrated onto the South African Air Force’s Rooivalk attack helicopters. The missile is produced by Denel Aerospace Systems, formerly Kentron. The current version utilises Semi-Active Laser (SAL) guidance, requiring the target to be illuminated by a laser designator either on the launch platform or elsewhere; though there are alternative guidance packages available including a millimetre-wave radar (MMW) seeker and a two-colour imaging infrared (IIR) seeker.
All variants of the Mokopa feature two launch modes, Lock-On Before Launch (LOBL) and Lock-On After Launch (LOAL). LOBL is the older, more conventional mode of missile launching, where the target has to be illuminated by the launch platform before launch. LOAL on the other hand allows the launch platform to launch the missile even though it may not be in sight of the target. In terms of the SAL version, this would then allow either the launch platform to move into place and only illuminate the target immediately prior to the missile striking the target, or it would allow an observer on the ground equipped with a laser designator to guide the missile in. This method of launching greatly reduces the exposure time of the launch platform to enemy fire.
Development
Full scale development of the Mokopa began in November 1996, due to the ongoing United States arms embargo against South Africa making acquisition of the AGM-114 Hellfire impossible. The first air-launched tests from a Rooivalk helicopter took place in 1999, with the first guided tests following in 2000. As of 2005 the missile’s development is virtually complete, and the first batches are currently being delivered to the SA Air Force’s Rooivalk squadron. However, as the Rooivalk system is only expected to be fully operational by 2008, the intervening three years will be used to refine tactics and iron out any possible minor flaws in the missile’s construction.
Launch vehicles and platforms
Though primarily designed to be launched from a helicopter, the Mokopa has been tested on a variety of platforms, including its mounting on light armoured vehicles and on ships or small boats. For the latter purpose, the Mokopa is available with an anti-ship warhead.
Warhead
The Mokopa uses a powerful tandem shaped-charge, high explosive anti-tank (HEAT) warhead, capable of penetrating over 1,350 mm (almost 4½ ft) of Rolled Homogenous Armour (RHA), and also effective against Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA). This means the Mokopa is able to counter any current vehicle armour threats.
An anti-ship warhead is also available for customers who wish to use the Mokopa as a ship-board defence weapon, or as the armament of specialised ship-board helicopters.
Performance
The missile is considered to be very accurate, with an accuracy believed to match that of the company’s other anti-tank missile, the Ingwe, at around 300 mm CEP at maximum range.
It also has a long range for an anti-tank missile; at 10 km (6.2 mi) it is greater than that of most current competitors, including the Hellfire. The range is achieved due to an advanced solid-fuel composite rocket motor (developed by Somchem), which has a relatively slow burning rate compared to similar motors, as well as being essentially smokeless.
Specifications (Mokopa SAL)
* Length: 1,995 mm (6 ft 6.5 in)
* Diameter: 178 mm (7 in)
* Weight: 49.8 kg (110 lb)
* Range: 10 km (6.2 miles)
* Seeker: Semi-Active Laser (SAL)
Geeez, how many time will they stick to the same sh!t? I repeat once more, Vera is NO radar….
yep just a fancy TV attenna UHF no less it don’t emit microwave liked radar. bid deal china already have a simalar system for sale.
I’m referring to the model shown in Post #25, not the front view shown in the LCD. There are four nice large spots on the airframe that, from a head-on aspect, will be great radar reflectors for travelling waves.
I belived the canoply will get a ram coating liked the F-22 with the gold tint.
Well, so does China have a slip big enough for an enlarged Aircraft Carrier of the Kuznetsov/Varyag Design??? :rolleyes:
shanghai is building the world biggest dry dock should be completed sometime 2008 or 2009. if any carriers are to be built it will be in shanghai.
I wonder who they copied it from????
copy from chinese design those are power parachutes PPA use by china special forces.they get about 75km milage not too bad.
If you understand something about PLAAF test programs, you would know that the J-8II is their preferred test platform. It is a known quantity to start with, the plane is quite rugged and the plane has plenty of room to install various equipment. A lot of things have been tested on J-8IIs, ranging from fly by wire systems, radars, missiles, various avionics, etc,. Loads of stuff that don’t end up in the serial production J-8IIs but on other planes.
Also we have seen enough pictures of J-8IIs with rockets and bombs. Plus the J-8H is said to use the YJ-91 ARM, and the F-8IIM has been shown with the Kh-31P. There is a clear indication that the J-8IIs have secondary strike role. It’s not hard to see why. The plane is rugged, and its quite fast.
and very cheap to operate.since every componment in the J-8-2 is made in china can’t say that about J-10 and J-11 with russkie engine that cost $10,000’s of dollar an hours to operated
DARK SWORD UAV :diablo: :dev2:
more LS-6 pics
JL-9 and L-15 jet trainers will be at the show too.
Text from Chinese magazine— Aviation World
The LS-6 precision guided glider Bomb is guided by INS + GPS, however, the LS-6 glider bomb in future will use the Chinese GPS equivalent—the “Beidou -2” before 2010.
The powered LS-6 precision guided glider Bomb has the maximum range of 300 kms while the unpowered one at 60kms according to the same magazine.
two new pics! 🙂 🙂 🙂