I know. As I stated, the airfield is for more than just training pilots. It is for training almost everyone except those that work on the propulsion of the Kuznetsov or other service related personel (ie the mess crew etc etc).
And I just wanted to stress that CAKE STAND is still needed first and foremost for training pilots (and a few PAR operators).
Funny how the control tower has the same barrel shaped radar contraption as the actual carrier.
It is a training base, but that doesn’t mean they only train pilots. They probably try to train radar operators, ground crew, command crew, flight controllers and planners etc.
Having the same electronics and systems makes sense for training everyone.
Actually the barrel shaped thing is a CAKE STAND (I don’t know the Russian designation) carrier-controlled approach radar. It’s probably needed to properly simulate carrier approaches.
The Su-30 is an odd-ball – being a development of the Su-27UB trainer.
As only a few are in RusAF service – they are called Su-30’s (thinks – what should they have been called under the Su-27X system?).
They were called Su-27PU.
Oh, didn’t know this. Can you tell me which Soviet plane got which F-number?
http://www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/coverdesignations.html
Tu-160 ‘bombardier’ station.
Thanks again heeroyui, that last photo is new to me.
Here are the basic specs of the Meteorit-A:
AS-X-19 ‘Koala’
Type: Land-attack cruise missile (ALCM)
Soviet designation: 3M25A Meteorit-A (Kh-80)
Developer: NPO Mashinnostrenya
Length: 12.8 m
Launch weight: 6,300 kg
Maximum range: 5,000 km
Maximum speed: Mach 2.5
Propulsion: Turbojet sustainer
Guidance: Inertial + TERCOM
Operational: Cancelled
Platforms: Tu-95MA, Tu-160M
The development of the Meteorit-A began in December 1976 as an air-launched version of the P-750 Meteorit-M (SS-NX-24) and Meteorit-N (SSC-X-5) advanced cruise missiles. One Tu-95MS heavy bomber was converted to serve as the Tu-95MA prototype that carried one missile under each wingroot. The first test launch was made in January 1984, but the program was cancelled at the end of that year after several unsuccesful launches as the Kh-55 (AS-15) was already entering service. The Meteorit was to be a long range supersonic high altitude land-attack cruise missile. It was initially designated BL-10 by the US DoD.
That’s interesting. I wonder if the original mobile ABM system Russia was working on was related to the S-300V? The 9M82 and 9M83 missiles do bear a superficial resemblance to the old Sprint ABM.
I have wondered about this myself too. The S-225 appeared to be an S-300V on steroids. And the second type of missile was designed by the same design bureau (Novator)…
Jenci, here you go.
The MAZ-7908 (second pic from the top) was the chassis for the Skorost TEL, and the MAZ-7909 and MAZ-7929 (third & bottom) were designed for the Kurier ICBM.
For those who don’t know, Skorost was a 4,000 km range IRBM cancelled in March 1987, and Kurier a Soviet equivalent of the US Midgetman cancelled in October 1991.
One thing I have wondered for years is what would have been the TEL of the ground-launched 3M25N (SSC-X-5)? I haven’t seen the ground-launched variant mentioned in any Russian sources, so I’m hoping its not just an invention of Western intelligence agencies. For one the missile would have been too big for an RK-55 type arrangement.
Thanks a bunch heeroyui! That SSC-X-4 launcher photo is a great find. Actually I’m not so much looking for missile but launcher pics. But please go ahead and post any other pictures you have. 🙂
Thanks for the pics, djnik! Now if one could have something similar of SSC-2…
It is very likely that “SSC-X-5” was first applied to the Meteorit-N, then later to Bastion, just as “AS-X-19” was first assigned to Meteorit-A, then Kh-90.
Not just likely but a fact. I’ve researched this (among other things) from the CIA FOIA archives myself. But SOC, shouldn’t Kh-90 be AS-X-21? 😉
Cool, I haven’t seen a few of those. The white missile in the upper row, is that the GALOSH, or the GORGON? And where is the display missile located?
GORGON. And the first picture shows the GAZELLE transloader.
Sorry, but I don’t know the location of the display missile. IIRC, I got the pic from a Russian website.
Yes, it was a PILL BOX prototype array.
Yes, but what did it look like? 😀
Oh, and does the V-1000 have an ASCC designation? 😮
Plus one more picture for sferrin.
Here you go.
This might be a good opportunity for me to ask if anyone has any info about the HORSE LEG radar at Sary Shagan? Supposedly it was a Don-2N (PILL BOX) prototype.
What is so special about it? Russians use Tu-160 Blackjack and Burlak system to launch stuff to low orbit quite openly.
No they don’t. Burlak was (is) just a proposal. But of course if you can prove the opposite I’d be very interested.
Unfortunately the link of Russian federation forces at rfforces.com is broken, so it may be that there are no more sources on 10200 and 11780 in the Web.
Is this the page you were after: http://rfforces.net/viewtopic.php?t=1736&sid=63d8a6acdcadef4e63aabca5b751854e ?
As we are on the topic of cancelled Soviet carries, would anyone happen to have any information about the Pr.1199 and Pr.1293 projects? All I know is that they were intended as nuclear-powered Aegis-type escort destroyers for the Pr.1160 and possibly Pr.1143.7 (Ulyanovsk) carriers.
Actually, I copied a post out of the LCIG forum on ACIG.org because I recognized the TEL as the one I had seen in pictures there. Is there a problem with that?
Where ever the text came from its copied word-to-word from my homepage. This is OK, but one should then at least provide a link to the original source.