Wanshan,
It would be nice if you gave the source of the text you posted – or even better just provided a link:
One thing that intrigues me about Mars-Passat is whether the Soviets tested it on ground in a similar fashion as the US built an AEGIS test site inland.
I wonder if there is some sort of carrier island sitting in the middle of a desert somewhere in the ex-Soviet Far East.
Thougths?
Gavin.O… I was just about to say the same.
Anyway, here’s a more accurate three-view of the MiG 7.01.
Thank you for your answer, PiBu.
BTW, watch out aerospacetech. Your drawing might become “the MiG PAK-FA” just as Eurasia Integral became “the MiG I-2000”. ๐
Now we’ll just wait when someone adds a front view… :rolleyes:
Mikoyan LFI & LFS
Now that we’ve heard what the Mikoyan PAK-FA proposal could have been like, what do you think of the Mikoyan LFI concept and LFS contender? Would they have been scaled-down 1.42s also? Engine configuration?
Perhaps it’s the SYB-A with a touch of Photoshop?
Might any Finn feel insulted – don’t worry, i know what รriisse (spelling?) is… ๐
Do you mean รถrisee ? ๐
In meteorits post number 5 you can see the centre missile has a square intake while the one to teh right has a circular intake.
Have read that early Soviet scramjets used circular intakes but reverted to square ones because they were easier to control and model and were more predictible.
With scramjet propulsion this bird could have flown very fast.
The missile on the right is the P-500 Bazalt (SS-N-12).
The missile on the left is the P-750 Granit (SS-N-19).
The Meteorit used a turbojet sustainer, though NPVO Plamya had designed a 780 mm ramjet engine for it.
one clue, she has an all black paint scheme, a 6bladed rear prop, turboprop engine, foreplanes, two tandem seats, twin nose pitiot over the nose, swept back wings with pylons underneath, a high tail plane over the prop… AEROPROGRESS designed her but never built her… we need a real name, performance specs like speed, climb, agility, weapon load etc and some good photos. i think a model is for sale costing 200pounds? the link on here was SOVIET ODDBALL DESIGNS but its deleted now… over to you. this is the nicest plane in looks ever built(next to spit and f-20!):)
You mean the Aeroprogress T-720 lightweight two-seat combat aircraft. Eight underwing pylons and under-fuselage gun pod. Take-off weight 4,500 kg, maximum speed 750 km/h, range 1,400 km, one TVD-1500 turboprop of 970 kW.
The 1996-1997 edition of Brassey’s World Aircraft & Systems Directory features lots of very nice Aeroprogress designs…
It helps only a little ๐ There’s still very little information out there about the design, and I thought someone on the forum might have more.
–Gavin.
The following comes from Brassey’s World Aircraft & Systems Directory 1996-1997:
Myasishchev M-200 Master
Wingspan: 9.40 m
Length: 10.37 m
Height: 4.20 m
Wheel base: 4.30 m
Wheel track: 2.70 m
Empty Weight: 3,805 kg
Normal Take-off Weight: 4,700 kg
Maximum Speed: 850 km/h at SL
Cruise Speed: 700 km/h
Take-off Speed: 180 km/h
Landing Speed: 155 km/h
Take-off Distance: 200 m
Landing Distance: 480 m
Ceiling: 13,100 m
Normal Range: 1,400 km
Ferry Range: 2,200 km
G-limits: +8/-3
Allowable AOA: 28-30 deg
The M-200 was developed for the UTS competition launched in January 1991. However, it was apperently judged worst of the four contenders in January 1992 when the first stage of the competiton was summarized. Development has reportedly ended. The M-200 was to have a reprogrammable flight control system and automatic operation of wing control surfaces to enable simulation of various flight conditions with sufficient margin of stability. The M-200 together with the NUTK-200 ground system would have made the UTK-200 training system.
I went to that site last night after seeing that drawing. It’s pretty good fan art, I agree. I think the plan view drawings are official, though or from a publication. The ones showing the plan views of the MFI, MiG1.42 and the production model. Do you know anything about the drawing comparison there, i.e., it’s source? Just curious.
Well, I’m not 100% certain, but fairly sure that the drawing of the production model is just fan art, too. I have the impression that the site owner makes the drawings himself – there’s one of almost every aircraft presented on that site, all clearly made with the same simple paint program.
The leftmost MFI top view shows an earlier configuration and is based on a drawing from TsAGI.
Sundog,
Please note that the drawing is in no way official – its just “fan art” (though probably fairly accurate one).
The original picture can be found at http://paralay.narod.ru/ and there’s lots of more interesting stuff on that site…
Hi Jazz,
Thank you for the picture, I haven’t seen it before. It looks like it could be a test round with those markings. Could you be so kind and tell the source?
The GELA was definitely NOT linked to the 3M25 Meteorit program. They were designed by different design bureaus – Meteorit by NPO Mashinnostrenya and GELA by Raduga – and at different timeframes – the 3M25 project was begun in 1976 and cancelled in 1989, the GELA was a late 1980s – early 1990s project. The GELA was probably linked to the Kh-90 air-launched cruise missile program. This issue has been discussed on this forum before.
And that drawing of 3M25 is wrong, it’s based on guesswork before the actual missile was unveiled. The last picture by heeroyui and the one posted by aerospacetech show the real thing.
Bobas – AFAIK the Russian are not working on either design anymore. The air-launched 3M25 was cancelled in 1984 and the submarine-launched in 1989. The Kh-90 was apparently replaced by the Kh-101/102 subsonic LO cruise missiles that are now entering service.
Here is the original bigger picture of 3M25:

The closure of the bureau means that Russia no longer has an organisation able to develop liquid-fuelled ramjets.
Liquid-fuelled ramjets. However, the R-77PD uses a solid-propellant ramjet, so as SOC said it shouldn’t be affected.