I think the canard delta Su-37 (first of that name) might be another Sh-90 concept.
There was also a requirement for an prop-based observation aircraft, emanating from Afgan experience, which some of the stuff on the previous page could be from.
Piotr Butowski mentions two Tupolev flying wings, Tu-202 and Tu-404.
The book “Tupolev – The Man and His Aircraft” by Paul Duffy and Andrei Kandalov lists the Tu-202 as “Basic anti-submarine ‘Argon’ aircraft” project of the late 1970s. I wonder if they are the same thing?
There was also the hypersonic Tu-260/360 designs (Mach 4/Mach 6), Mikoyan 301/321 etc, all of which are recce/bomber designs.
Can you elaborate on the etc? 🙂 Btw, I had the impression that the hypersonic aircraft program was separate from the B-90 one.
Does anyone have more information about the Soviet Sh-90 and B-90 projects to produce a new close-support aircraft and strategic bomber respectively? The only Sh-90 concept I know is the twin-fuselage Sukhoi T-12, whereas of the B-90 I’ve only read that Tupolev was working on a flying wing design similar to its commercial Tu-404 giant airliner.
I wonder if Myasishchev came up with that config before or after the B-2 was shown publicly…
Single sawtooth trailing edge, so I would say before. 😉
And thanks a lot for these pics and the link!
Those wreckage pieces at Taganrog could have something to do with the Beriev Ekranoplans, Be-1 and VVA-14.
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/bartini/vva/vva_e.htm
http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/be-1.html
http://www.se-technology.com/wig/html/main.php?open=showcraft&code=0&craft=11
Like some other European countries, Finland started with the De Havilland Vampire. Six single-seat fighters entered service in 1953, and nine D.H.115 trainers were bought in 1955-1956.

airwar.ru has a load of downloadable magazines here:
http://www.airwar.ru/other/bibl_j.html
The actual magazine is http://www.airwar.ru/other/aiv/aiv1994_01/index.html
Its a short article on 1.42 and 701P, it mentions in passing hypersonic recce aircraft “301” ( I know about) and “321” (not heard of).
Too bad it seems I can’t access the site (I get a timeout).
What I’ve read is that the Mikoyan 301 is the reconnaissance version and the 321 the bomber version with four air-to-ground missiles in internal bays.
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At last!
May I ask where did you get it from?
Isn’t Finland bound by the CFE treaty? I know the Russians and the Ukrainians are annoyed with it over its flank limitations…
Finland has never been a member of NATO or the Warsaw Pact, and thus isn’t bound by CFE treaty limitations. The CFE treaty applies only to NATO and former Warsaw Pact contries, so neutral countries like Finland and Sweden are not included.
I read somewhere that Finland was supposed to have only 60 fighters. This was a limit set by some sort of a treaty. Does anyone have more info on this? (Might be a good quiz question for the guys that like to make up quizes. 😉 )
There are no treaties limiting the number of fighters in Finland. Finland still operates 63 F-18C/Ds.
Well, if this missile isn’t Chinese, then what the heck is it?
It doesn’t look PS’ed, anyway. And its not any Russian missile I’m aware of – the missile container is different from the SS-20 one.
Missiles fly, so this is far more aviation related than many other recent theards in this forum, IMHO 🙂 .
EDIT: sorry Vympel, it seems you were a few seconds faster than I 😮 .
Interesting to note that the TEL is based on MAZ-547 chassis. It was used by the Soviets for the Pioner (SS-20 SABER) IRBM before it was banned by the INF treaty in 1988.
I was under the impression that it was designated MiG-35 some time ago.
At some time MiG-33 was used for a possible export version of the MiG-29M and MiG-35 for a planned MiG-29M development with new engines and wings etc.
Originally posted by flex297
There were two reasons for this.. At first, large technology transfer, mainly Motorola —-> Nokia (mobile phones) and more..Second, you would not believe it, but the vast part of the price was paid with supplies of conserved fish!
If you find a fish conserve at your local store that has Made in Finland on it, think of the Bugz.. 😀 The poor Boeing workers probably haven’t eaten anything but conserved fish for years..
Gee whiz, I hate fish.. :p I rather won’t opt for becoming a Boeing employee..
That conserved fish thing is complete BS. Finland even isn’t a major conserved fish producer. The price was paid totally by hard currency. There may have been some fish products involved in the trade offsets, though.
More real two reasons why the Hornet was chosen were:
1. Twin engines for increased safety
2. We needed a new fighter soon – the Hornets started arriving in 1997, whereas no export Gripens have been delivered anywhere even today (well, they have been ordered later, but anyway).
Originally posted by aditya
that’s just a piece of plastic display model…Does the darn thing have aname so that I can try google?
The name is on the placard in the background – Zond-2.
Su-30MKI/MKM and Rafale (possible, though not probable)
A-12 ATA and F-22 NATF (what-if?)