ballturret,
You’re right about the cockpit section. To quote Johnathan Falconer’s book Filming the Dam Busters: [QUOTE]For the scenes depicting action inside the Lancasters themselves, Associated British constructed mock-ups of the various crew stations, as well as installing a complete Lancster nose section in the studio, mounted on a pivoting platform. […] The cockpit controls were linked to a motor beneath the platform to create what was in essence a simple flight simulator. […] During the long spells of filming in the studio, Richard Todd was strapped into the pilot’s seat in the nose section for hours at a time while scenes were shot again and again […] To help pass the time between takes, Todd was taught how to ‘fly’ the platform correctly by an RAF flying instructor.[/QUOTE]
Sadly, the book doesn’t answer your question about where this ‘compete Lancaster nose section’ came from or what happened to it.
Pete
I’ll pass that suggestion on, scotavia – it would certainly suit the ‘operational’ rather than a ‘straight out of the paint shop’ look it’s been given.
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It’s been beautifully weathered with the ladder showing signs of much use and even grass and mud stains along the rear fuselage.
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Whilst the loan of the RAF Museum Meteor was a good idea maybe time for a change ?
Yes and the museum’s management felt the same way. The changes began a few week’s ago when the Hurricane FSM was moved across the aisle in the Merston Hall to be next to the Spitfire prototype, replacing the SE5a replica cockpit and the Canberra B2 cockpit. The SE5a has been moved near to the Swift, co-locating it with the Hunter and Provost cockpits – a much more sensible arrangement. The Canberra cockpit has been temporarily re-located to the conservation hanger but will return to the main museum when all the other moves have been completed.
The Meteor (EE549) will be back at the museum by mid-July where it will be re-assembled by the same Cosford team who took it apart last week. The original plan was for it to return to the position opposite WB188 where it has lived for many years but, having seen the quite stunning visual impact that the Lysander has in that position when entering the Merston Hall, EE549 will now be displayed in the position previously occupied by the Hurricane FSM with the Lysander staying where it now is.
Pete
Your Questions Answered
I can now answer some of the questions/comments from this old thread.
So the question is who owns the FSM…?
It’s now owned by the Tangmere Military Aviation Museum Trust.
Let’s hope it finds it’s way into a museum
It has – it’s now at its new permanent home at Tangmere.
And undercover as well.
It is – it will be on display in the museum’s Merston Hall.
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Re-assembly should be complete by Tuesday 10 July. It will then be re-marked as V9822 MA-E, the aircraft in which Jimmy McCairns flew most of his 25 successful pick-up operations from RAF Tangmere in 1943.
Photos of its arrival here: http://www.tangmere-museum.org.uk/news/lysander-replica-aircraft-arrives
and for those with Facebook access, here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TMAMAdmin/ Click on Discussion on the left hand side and scroll down.
Pete
Does anyone know when or why it picked up the Polish insignia on the engine cowl? It is of course in 1sqn Battle of France colours so the Polish addition makes no immediate sense.
Yes, it does look odd but there is an explanation. During the summer holiday months we ran a special exhibition on Polish and Czech airmen in Sussex during the Second World War and the Hurricane was temporarily given the markings of Josef František’s R4175. Although most of the temporary markings have now been removed with the end of the exhibition, the Polish insignia has yet to be done.
There’s a news item on the change of markings here: http://www.tangmere-museum.org.uk/news/change-of-markings-for-the-museums-hurricane and a report on the exhibition here: http://www.tangmere-museum.org.uk/polish-and-czech-fighter-pilot-exhibition
Incidentally, the Phantom repaint is the work of just one dedicated volunteer who’s been beavering away for the best part of this year outside in all weathers – I’m sure he’ll be delighted to know his efforts are being appreciated.
Pete
Thanks arejay. Funnily enough I was going to do the same thing on Thursday but you’ve saved me a job.
P.
You may well be right – I’m nowhere near as familiar with the view of the Downs from Goodwood as I am from Tangmere – but they always seem closer at Goodwood than they appear to be in this photo. I’ll stick with Tangmere for the moment but – with apologies to the OP for the slight thread drift – I’m keen to hear any evidence to the contrary as I regularly use this photo in talks and would hate to think I was giving out incorrect info about it.
P.
Yes, I did wonder that myself but I’d always assumed those hills in the background were the South Downs. An unwarranted assumption perhaps?
P.
Just out of curiosity, what makes you think that? I can’t find any reference to 411 being at Westhampnett although I guess some aircraft could have been dispersed there while the squadron was at Tangmere.
Also, if the date of 22 June for the photo given in the link in CAF-UK’s post is correct, then it’s unlikely to be at either Tangmere or Westhampnett – the squadron left on 18 June for France and began operating from B4 on 19/06.
P.
PM sent.
Pete
I suspect my bank account is being emptied by some Hungarian (?) bandits as I write this!
Any guesses at a translation…
Google Translate detects the language as Turkish and offers the following translation:
Thank you for your support to the campaign
Thanks to the campaign you take an important step to succeed. The campaign will be shown to 69 people and will be urged to participate.
Payment summary
Make of that what you will.
‘Britain at War’ magazine are proud to have been able to facilitate information that has led today to the ‘red devil’ emblem being applied to the RAF display Typhoon…
I think Tangmere1940 forgot to add “…thanks to the cooperation of the curator of the Tangmere Military Aviation Museum.”
PP
Being done at Tangmere, too.
http://www.tangmere-museum.org.uk/news/museums-spitfire-replica-cockpit
PP
I’m glad you enjoyed yourselves. The museum has, indeed, come on in leaps and bounds over the last 6 or 7 years. As with all volunteer organisations, you can only achieve what the skills of your volunteers allow but, over the last few years, some remarkably talented and enthusiastic people – especially in the engineering and electronics fields – have come knocking on the door. 😉
I agree the Boultbee Tiger and Spitfire displays were first class. Didn’t have the right camera with me for photographing air displays (tto much shutter delay) but here’s a couple of the better ones.
That large expanse of concrete to the North (c.450 x 100 yds) looks as tho’ it could do with more use !
I don’t know what you had in mind, John but if you mean that bit we were using for car parking in front of the hangars, word is that it, and the T2s behind it, are next on the list for digging up/knocking down for more housing.
Pete