1MAN,

How can you be so naive?

Syria blames US for Iraq ‘infiltrators’

‘Syrian ambassador Fayssal Mekdad told the United Nations his country had deployed thousands of soldiers in an effort to secure the lengthy desert border and had intercepted many attempted infiltrators’

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2005/09/24/1467522.htm

Now ask yourself how many of those infiltrators got through to Iraq? Ask yourself where those infiltrators are doing in Iraq? Ask yourself how many are Syrian nationals? How can you be so naive as to think that no Syrian or Iranian national has not been caught involved in the fighting or supply of weapons in Iraq?

http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=sr&ID=SR1903

Syrian nationals fighting in Iraq have been captured by Coalition forces.

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=94827&version=1&template_id=37&par

Members of the Iranian Qods Force have been captured in Iraq. Why are they there for? Just popped over for a holiday did they?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/29/AR2006122901510.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/06/AR2007110600853.html

UNMOVIC were still finding and destroying Iraqi chemical munitions even in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. Mustard gas was sill being destroyed right up until March 2003! The Iraqi’s weren’t helping themselves by their actions. Even Saddam admitted that his stance on WMD was one of bluff due to the likes of the Iranian regime on his borders.

This bluff and the obstacles put in place by the Iraqis led many to believe that Iraq still had a working cache of WMD. UNMOVIC and UNSCOM had over the years destroyed thousands of tonnes of Iraqi WMD. The continued stalling and denying of some locations for inspection resulted in distrust with the result that Iraq was still hiding a cache of useable WMD.

Even members of the Iraqi Republican Guard who were interviewed post invasion believed that they would be issued with a cache of WMD in an attempt to halt the invasion.

February 2003

‘An UNMOVIC chemical team began the process of destroying 10 155mm artillery shells and four plastic containers filled with mustard gas at Al Mutanna, approximately 140 km northwest of Baghdad.’

http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/MediaAdvisory/2003/ma_iraq_1202.shtml

TJ

Let me be more clear, NOT 1 Syrian/Iranian Fighter has been show, with pictures and audio proving they (Farsi/Syriac) are Syrian/Irainian, all we see hear, is U.S. and (puppet) Iraqi Gov officials saying there are Syrian/Irainians in Iraq, the Irainian officials arrested were just that, Irainian officials not fighters, I remember that story, btw the U.S. aloud Iran to have officials there to “HELP” with some of the reconstruction, so thier capture means nothing but dis-info from U.S. as far as I see it, remember it wasn’t until the late 90’s that the U.S. finaly addmitted the Gulf Of Tonkin incedent DIDN’T happen, that caused the Vietnam War, which shows the U.S. has a LONG history of dis-information, so this should help you understand that the whole war is a lie, the infaltraitors coming in from Syria/Iran is a lie, and when I say infaltraitors, I’m talking about what the U.S. is implying, Syrian/Iranian Government SENT infiltraitors, not civilians who are zelos to help the Iraqs fight the U.S.,(which I have not found any evidence of anyway)

Major Anatoli Schicharjow announces something new which is still kept secret for the victory parade on may the 9th.

http://de.rian.ru/society/20080426/105976023.html (in german)

well maybe just a spectacular show, but as we all like to speculate, Anatoli Schicharjow is the chief of the long range bomber fleet. Could a black project exist ? Everybody says PAK-FA will fly the first time in 2009, and Su-47 and Mig 1.44 are no secret projects. The only project I know which at some time existed was the T-60 – that would be a huge surprise. Perhaps they are presenting the kh-101/102 for the first time ? what do you think ?

KH-101 was already show in CombatAircraft.

Or maybe there waiting several hundred years till the radiation drops away… foiled again by them meddling kids tsk tsk Syria.

That was not my quote, when I was quoting I must have pressed the wrong button and put “TEEJ’s” quote with my post.

Hold up, if an Astronomer was to tell you the Sun revolves around the earth, which you know to be untrue, you would still take his word for everything else he spouts? Because that is how absurd Veniks trash is – you got some real faith there in a known story teller…

pLease feel free to tell show me indetail, how what he says is soo outlandish that he should’nt be listened to at all, if that the case than England can also be ingrored after all, British soilders were caught red handed dressing like Iraq’s and trying to lant bombs to kill Iraq’s back in 2005.;) 😀

1MAN

Martinez is too lazy to do his own research, so like a child he simply asks stupid questions – ‘How good was EID?’, ‘Tell me how many MiGs COMBAT TREE helped shoot down’, ‘Where have all the MiGs gone?’, etc. You are a bit like that, too (‘Show me some sources!’, ‘I want to see photos!’).

Yes I want to see sources because I can say that the U.S. lied/exagerated MANY times about Russia’s so called weakness over the years, but many will reply by saying, I’m making it up and they want sources, well then I wany sources too, people assume the U.S. is telling the truth about many things from my research in the last 9 1/2 years I have found that to be untrue, so from now on I’m demanding proof, and there’s nothing wrong with that, the only reason people are complaining is because we are doing the UNTHINKABLE, (questioning the U.S.’s supieriority and truthfullness)

You reckon that for America to get any advantage out of flying a MiG-29 or a Su-27, it would have to be the latest model since a great deal has changed. That’s a totally flawed argument that, like Martinez, exposes you as someone who does not know the first thing about US FME – either its scope or its purpose.

please show us how, last time I checked a nation flying outdated planes ALWAYS gets wooped.

And, as with Martinez, just because someone stops responding to your stupid, ignorant questions and opinions, it doesn’t mean that they have conceded that you are correct. Frankly, the other thing that you and he have done a good job of is reminding me why I stopped posting to forums and newsgroups such as this many, many years ago, and why I won’t be doing so again the future!

Maybe you and Martinez can find a guy on the internet called Venik? You’d all get along well with him!

The only reason people don’t like him is because of all of those reports about downed NATO planes, other than that his reporting is correct, I haven’t been on his site in over 4 years, but just to let you know there are many western sources that have also show nato lost over 30 planes “Forrien Affairs” 1999 reports is one of them, I’ll try and find the issues but it may take sometime, anyways most of my sources I read are not even Venik.:cool:

With all the customization it can’t be less than 80-85 mil per piece. MKI itself is about 62 mil with support and spares.

What I read in AirForce Monthly/CombatAirCraft is that the MKI’S were around $25-$30 Million, can you give my a source.:confused:

1MAN wrote

Can’t wait. In fact we all can’t wait! :rolleyes:

Have you actually read the responses after the article?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/04/syria-more-ques.html

Go back and play the first video of Syrian Ambassador to U.S., Imad Moustapha

“3 Israeli jet fighters penetrated deep into Syrian airspace and bombarded a military target in Syria. By the way those three jet fighters were US made…….”

This is the same target that the Syrians refer to in the desert that had no air defences or security fences etc. Even the Syrians admit that the building was bombed.

TJ

What I was saying is a building was bombed but it was not a Nuke plant.
You posted the article here it is: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/04/syria-more-ques.html now look at the pic at the top of this thread, notice the top pic corisponds to the L.A. Times CGI pic, but the bottom pic doesn’t, this is WHY they couldn’t show a side view of the pic because one could easily tell it was fake, so they had to only show a:
1. “pefect top view”
2. make sure it was only in black&white
3. Also the video of the bombing was not shown to the public because it would show that it was different than the top picture.
4. Notice that the shadow is FAKE it’s not natural, but CGI shaded in.
5. On the bottom pic notice there’s some sort of building (probably a trailer house/building) to the top left, but in the top pic it isn’t there.
6. If all this was true, the U.S. would have also used this oportunaty to say,” This nuke building, aslo proves that our reports in 04/05 that Iraq moved thier WMD’s to Syria are correct”

It’s interesting that so many people doubt that the US DoD would either have the inclination to exploit the MiG-29 and Su-27, or the technical wherewithal to make them flyable and keep them that way. Those individuals who argue this point clearly have no understanding of the foreign military exploitation process, or the scale of America’s ongoing FME activities.

2) Technical FME is an ongoing process that takes a great deal of time, and requires a flying programme (vice just a static programme) to be truly useful. Although the US has borrowed Flankers and Fulcrums for brief exploitation at various points over the years, and has visited foreign users of these aircraft, there is no substitute for owning examples and exploiting them over a period of a number years. It is a fact that the USAF conducted a technical exploitation programme of the MiG-21 that ran almost continuously for more than 20 years. Why some people think that there would be any less effort put into exploiting the Flanker and Fulcrum is beyond me.

Having baseline Su-27/MiG-29’s mean nothing so I don’t understand why you “THINK” it’s a big deal, there are such things as upgrades that will change the situation in a war.

3) Asides from the technical exploitation of these aircraft, there is also a pressing need for tactical exploitations. Again, this is an ongoing programme which, if history is anything to go by, involves exposing the Flankers and Fulcrums to Aggressor, FWIC and OT&E aircrews. It seems very likely that a small handful of IPs in these units also actually fly the assets. The importance of this kind of exposure cannot be over rated. Like the technical exploitation programme, tactical exploitations take a long time (the MiG-23 tactical exploitation took America almost 10 years, and it took took at least two years to be able to filter the results of the first exploitations down to the frontline fighter squadrons) and are extremely valuable. With many USAF fighter squadrons today using the Su-27 with AA-10Cs as its baseline Red Air simulator, the desire to have the best information on the Flanker is stronger than ever

If Russia uses baseline Su-27 in a war against the US then yes U.S. will have all the advantage, but you do know the U.S. knows Russia would upgrade them, so having the knowlege of these planes doesn’t mean much against Russia, but it does mean much against the semi3rd world nations that have these Su-27 that don’t have the cababilites to upgrade them.

Oh, and nice evidence you got there, TEEJ. I wonder if 1MAN will come back and say it’s a fake?!

Why would I, all I was saying is I haven’t read/seen any info saying U.S had S-300s