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  • in reply to: General Discussion #303951
    BAV_Captain
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    The sad thing is if she was 7 meters more left thw whole disaster wouldnt have happend.

    Explination:

    when a ship passes through the water it forces the water down and to the side (displacement) in the open ocean the affect is incredibly minor, but where zeebrugge is concernd its very shallow, so the water has to go some where so at speed it will ride up then over.

    The herald was hiting 15 knots when she started to take on water, the test on her sister showed the problem, lack of secondary water tight door (now mandatory on all ferries as is water tight compartments and barriers.)

    The roro concept was taken from the landing ships of WW2 and used to create car ferries, most have very flatish bottoms and can get into waters that are not that deep.

    The vessel i served on was a roro frieghter she had a depth of 7 meters a similar ship in size and wieght but not of roro design would be atleast 11 or 12 meters draft.

    Dart 8 was a 26,000 tonne roro frieghter herald being only 8,000tonne,

    Thankfully the herald sank onto a sand bank if it hadnt then the ship would have completely rolled over and then well sunk with all onboard. (ship of heralds design and size would take less than 10 minuets to sink completely)

    Thats why we call them RO RO RO vessels Roll on Roll off Roll over

    in reply to: The Herald of Free Enterprise #1926561
    BAV_Captain
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    The sad thing is if she was 7 meters more left thw whole disaster wouldnt have happend.

    Explination:

    when a ship passes through the water it forces the water down and to the side (displacement) in the open ocean the affect is incredibly minor, but where zeebrugge is concernd its very shallow, so the water has to go some where so at speed it will ride up then over.

    The herald was hiting 15 knots when she started to take on water, the test on her sister showed the problem, lack of secondary water tight door (now mandatory on all ferries as is water tight compartments and barriers.)

    The roro concept was taken from the landing ships of WW2 and used to create car ferries, most have very flatish bottoms and can get into waters that are not that deep.

    The vessel i served on was a roro frieghter she had a depth of 7 meters a similar ship in size and wieght but not of roro design would be atleast 11 or 12 meters draft.

    Dart 8 was a 26,000 tonne roro frieghter herald being only 8,000tonne,

    Thankfully the herald sank onto a sand bank if it hadnt then the ship would have completely rolled over and then well sunk with all onboard. (ship of heralds design and size would take less than 10 minuets to sink completely)

    Thats why we call them RO RO RO vessels Roll on Roll off Roll over

    in reply to: A few of my flights #1601579
    BAV_Captain
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    First of all the angle is not level the bank is not even 25 degree, secondly the shot is taken from the backside if i took it from the front you would see around 3 or 4 aircraft waiting right behind me no doubt it being a lufthansa flight of some sort.

    For other pictures of the 146’s in africa and what not ive seen a few its not well documented, however if your in england and have discovery wings watch flight deck BAe146 with captain jim rice i believe flying the lufthansa jet into LCY, they do show a clip of the 146 landing on a small grass strip, im quite sure of that!

    Also new york to america depending on what NAT track you are on time will vary greatly it took my friend jon 9 hours and 45 minuets to go from EGLL to KJFK where on the way back it was only 7 hours, again depends on aircraft hieght wieght NAT track and whats in front.

    I did once EDDF to CYYZ ment to be a straight 8 hour flight it took 13 hours simply because i messed up in the FMC stage (put wrong way point in) had to land at KMIA and re fuel.

    Good weather in real life yeah 6 to 7 hours london to KJFK bad weather bit more but again it depends on traffic EDDF on vatsim is heavy on a friday and saturday night thats what i find any way.

    And yes your correct an aircraft wont back so soon on take off in real life what you see below me is a taxi way going to runway 18 i took off from 25R and thats why you cant see traffic, whats more this picture was taken not immediatly after take off im more then 3/4 down the runways and well above 400 feet ok yes broke the rule by turning at below 1000 feet but it allowed two aircraft to over take me and i dont make a massive turn either i still follow runway heading just off side. till my waypoints.

    in reply to: A few of my flights #1566002
    BAV_Captain
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    First of all the angle is not level the bank is not even 25 degree, secondly the shot is taken from the backside if i took it from the front you would see around 3 or 4 aircraft waiting right behind me no doubt it being a lufthansa flight of some sort.

    For other pictures of the 146’s in africa and what not ive seen a few its not well documented, however if your in england and have discovery wings watch flight deck BAe146 with captain jim rice i believe flying the lufthansa jet into LCY, they do show a clip of the 146 landing on a small grass strip, im quite sure of that!

    Also new york to america depending on what NAT track you are on time will vary greatly it took my friend jon 9 hours and 45 minuets to go from EGLL to KJFK where on the way back it was only 7 hours, again depends on aircraft hieght wieght NAT track and whats in front.

    I did once EDDF to CYYZ ment to be a straight 8 hour flight it took 13 hours simply because i messed up in the FMC stage (put wrong way point in) had to land at KMIA and re fuel.

    Good weather in real life yeah 6 to 7 hours london to KJFK bad weather bit more but again it depends on traffic EDDF on vatsim is heavy on a friday and saturday night thats what i find any way.

    And yes your correct an aircraft wont back so soon on take off in real life what you see below me is a taxi way going to runway 18 i took off from 25R and thats why you cant see traffic, whats more this picture was taken not immediatly after take off im more then 3/4 down the runways and well above 400 feet ok yes broke the rule by turning at below 1000 feet but it allowed two aircraft to over take me and i dont make a massive turn either i still follow runway heading just off side. till my waypoints.

    in reply to: A few of my flights #1601589
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    That is complete rubbish, that is not a typical take off at all from any commercial jet or turbo prop. You would not turn when you are 50ft, period. Unless specific procedures (SID procedures) specify then normally you would climb straight ahead on runway heading until you are 1,000ft above the airport before even thinking about a turn.

    You do realise im talking about FS not real life, i would have thought it would be blindingly obvious no real comercial airliner does that, the reason i do that and its agreed with the tower before hand is just so that other people behind me dont have to suffer waiting till im far enough away before they can take off, i always turn away from the runway to allow faster jets to over take me its just the way its been.

    When you say they are slower but climb faster are you talking about the best rate of climb or best angle of climb? do you know the difference?

    Im slower at crusing i can only cruise at mach 0.70 unlike a 737 mach 0.80 or a 777 at mach 0.84, i can climb at a max empty 4,500fpm yes its a very steep angle one that i dont use, however on take off runway 28 at london city 3,200fpm is used upto 1,000 feet then i ease off to 2,000fpm then ease again later on to 1,600fpm, and yes i know the diffrence im not that interlectually challenged.

    You can land on grass / mud / sand? I have never seen an RJ do that ever, so you are a world first. Think about it, if I wanted to put down my 747-400 on the beach using flight sim then I could, easily.

    Saying your plane can outclimb others at 2400fpm is again nonsense, because you can climb your 396 tonne 747-400 at over 3,000fpm, and at a climb speed of below 200kts if you had to, but again why would you want to make your passengers feel uncomfortable? the 747 climbing with a faster climb speed than your little “bird” would travel further in the climb over the same time span, and it would climb higher (using your figures), so in effect it is your meagre plane that is being left behind. Remember this is commercial aviation, so why is climbing at such a pathetic airspeed as 95kts better than 200kts? being expedicious is the name of the game when you are trying to make money.

    I somehow think you are not taking the “British Airways Virtual” thing seriously enough, the aim of a VA is to “emulate” an airline, in your case British Airways, I cannot recall any BA service that uses an RJ to land on grass, mud or sand.

    “xxx Tower Speedbird 423 with you established Localiser at 8 miles for runway 33 mud” L O L

    For one take off speed is 95 knots from london city once you have powerd up and flaps up you will climb at 225 knots then at 25,000ft switch to mach 0.70 cruise speed which is around 300 knots.

    Also No a passenger carrying aircraft will not land on mud or sand or grass because most runways in europe are not in the 3rd world they have something that well call tarmac and concreat over them, so thats why you dont see them landing on grass mud or sand.

    However in africa if you notice theres not many airports that can accomadate 747’s on thier grass strips and thier sand strips and sometimes just mud, who goes in with the cargo and passengers? BAe146 and RJ 100’s not to mention the AN124, it is classified as a STOL aircraft hence why its the only jet allowed into london city.

    If you really want to see a RJ-100 or a BAe146 land on grass sand or mud then take a camera and go to africa theres plenty of red cross ones landing on those runways every single day with cargo and passengers, so yes the RJ-100 can land on rough terrain.

    in reply to: A few of my flights #1566010
    BAV_Captain
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    That is complete rubbish, that is not a typical take off at all from any commercial jet or turbo prop. You would not turn when you are 50ft, period. Unless specific procedures (SID procedures) specify then normally you would climb straight ahead on runway heading until you are 1,000ft above the airport before even thinking about a turn.

    You do realise im talking about FS not real life, i would have thought it would be blindingly obvious no real comercial airliner does that, the reason i do that and its agreed with the tower before hand is just so that other people behind me dont have to suffer waiting till im far enough away before they can take off, i always turn away from the runway to allow faster jets to over take me its just the way its been.

    When you say they are slower but climb faster are you talking about the best rate of climb or best angle of climb? do you know the difference?

    Im slower at crusing i can only cruise at mach 0.70 unlike a 737 mach 0.80 or a 777 at mach 0.84, i can climb at a max empty 4,500fpm yes its a very steep angle one that i dont use, however on take off runway 28 at london city 3,200fpm is used upto 1,000 feet then i ease off to 2,000fpm then ease again later on to 1,600fpm, and yes i know the diffrence im not that interlectually challenged.

    You can land on grass / mud / sand? I have never seen an RJ do that ever, so you are a world first. Think about it, if I wanted to put down my 747-400 on the beach using flight sim then I could, easily.

    Saying your plane can outclimb others at 2400fpm is again nonsense, because you can climb your 396 tonne 747-400 at over 3,000fpm, and at a climb speed of below 200kts if you had to, but again why would you want to make your passengers feel uncomfortable? the 747 climbing with a faster climb speed than your little “bird” would travel further in the climb over the same time span, and it would climb higher (using your figures), so in effect it is your meagre plane that is being left behind. Remember this is commercial aviation, so why is climbing at such a pathetic airspeed as 95kts better than 200kts? being expedicious is the name of the game when you are trying to make money.

    I somehow think you are not taking the “British Airways Virtual” thing seriously enough, the aim of a VA is to “emulate” an airline, in your case British Airways, I cannot recall any BA service that uses an RJ to land on grass, mud or sand.

    “xxx Tower Speedbird 423 with you established Localiser at 8 miles for runway 33 mud” L O L

    For one take off speed is 95 knots from london city once you have powerd up and flaps up you will climb at 225 knots then at 25,000ft switch to mach 0.70 cruise speed which is around 300 knots.

    Also No a passenger carrying aircraft will not land on mud or sand or grass because most runways in europe are not in the 3rd world they have something that well call tarmac and concreat over them, so thats why you dont see them landing on grass mud or sand.

    However in africa if you notice theres not many airports that can accomadate 747’s on thier grass strips and thier sand strips and sometimes just mud, who goes in with the cargo and passengers? BAe146 and RJ 100’s not to mention the AN124, it is classified as a STOL aircraft hence why its the only jet allowed into london city.

    If you really want to see a RJ-100 or a BAe146 land on grass sand or mud then take a camera and go to africa theres plenty of red cross ones landing on those runways every single day with cargo and passengers, so yes the RJ-100 can land on rough terrain.

    in reply to: A few of my flights #1601596
    BAV_Captain
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    My little RJ-100 maynot be as fast but i can take it to places not many other planes can.

    i take off with a 3/4 load at 95knots, i can land on a runway thats 450 feet long and still stop, i dont need to have a tarmac runway either i can land on grass mud sand you name it.

    So yes please do mock because you only mock your planes because mine can out climb yours i climb on take off anything upto 2400 fpm can your 747’s do that from 95 knots?

    in reply to: A few of my flights #1566016
    BAV_Captain
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    My little RJ-100 maynot be as fast but i can take it to places not many other planes can.

    i take off with a 3/4 load at 95knots, i can land on a runway thats 450 feet long and still stop, i dont need to have a tarmac runway either i can land on grass mud sand you name it.

    So yes please do mock because you only mock your planes because mine can out climb yours i climb on take off anything upto 2400 fpm can your 747’s do that from 95 knots?

    in reply to: General Discussion #305170
    BAV_Captain
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    The one you all havnt mentioned yet is PROPELLOR !

    although many new ships use azi pods to steer which makes the conventional shaft propellor rubber asembally redundant.

    radio comunications are similar i served onboard a ship for over a year worked on the bridge on navigation and communications.

    So a run down of what was said on one out run.

    ” London VTS Dart 8″

    Dart 8 london VTS go ahead

    ” london VTS Dart 8 is ready to make for sea using the knock john channel with route set and planned out bound for zeebrugges, we have a summer draft of 23.3 meters we are carrying class 7 hazadous cargo, we have a current displacement of 26,000 tonnes, theres 33 souls on board my pre sailing checks are complete Dart 8 at thames Euro port”

    Dart 8 London VTS your cleaerd through the knock john channel no speed restriction be aware of M/V Valentine inbound for tilbury your cleared to make for sea

    Thats like ATC isnt it?

    in reply to: Naval Terms #1927061
    BAV_Captain
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    The one you all havnt mentioned yet is PROPELLOR !

    although many new ships use azi pods to steer which makes the conventional shaft propellor rubber asembally redundant.

    radio comunications are similar i served onboard a ship for over a year worked on the bridge on navigation and communications.

    So a run down of what was said on one out run.

    ” London VTS Dart 8″

    Dart 8 london VTS go ahead

    ” london VTS Dart 8 is ready to make for sea using the knock john channel with route set and planned out bound for zeebrugges, we have a summer draft of 23.3 meters we are carrying class 7 hazadous cargo, we have a current displacement of 26,000 tonnes, theres 33 souls on board my pre sailing checks are complete Dart 8 at thames Euro port”

    Dart 8 London VTS your cleaerd through the knock john channel no speed restriction be aware of M/V Valentine inbound for tilbury your cleared to make for sea

    Thats like ATC isnt it?

    in reply to: General Discussion #305536
    BAV_Captain
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    napolis grounding is a shame to the MSC company ive sailed behind thier vessels and been on board most of thier ships were in better condition than the one i was on, MSC maintians thier fleet well but guess its one of those things.

    in reply to: MSC Napoli #1927204
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    napolis grounding is a shame to the MSC company ive sailed behind thier vessels and been on board most of thier ships were in better condition than the one i was on, MSC maintians thier fleet well but guess its one of those things.

    in reply to: General Discussion #305544
    BAV_Captain
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    before i started on the rubbish i used to sail in and out of zeebrugge every other day for over a year, on our charts we had the spot marked out where she sank as a mark of respect.

    in reply to: The Herald of Free Enterprise #1927210
    BAV_Captain
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    before i started on the rubbish i used to sail in and out of zeebrugge every other day for over a year, on our charts we had the spot marked out where she sank as a mark of respect.

    in reply to: General Discussion #305549
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    Yes found a small parcel full of white poweder turned out to be pure cocaine, once found a live firing pistol, have had dead animals in sacks.

    Other things found was once in london in edmunton where they incinderate the waste they found parts of a woman closer the whole lot down for 3 days !

    You find alot of stuff good and bad its not uncommon to have needles (used ones) clinical waste or anything of that nature in a bin bag.

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