Very recent official report from Royal United Service Institute (RUSI)
https://www.rusi.org/publications/whitehallreports/ref:N553E2DE7813E9/

As a result of the British-led upgrade work, the DASS – which includes threat detection, early warning and countermeasures systems – now includes a thoroughly effective electronic support measures (ESM) package. This enables the recognition and tracking of hostile threat signals (including those from ‘low probability of intercept’ AESA radars), as well as various other classified functions.

Good! We were talking about ESM few page back…

However, the active electronic countermeasures (ECM) components of the DASS, whilst sophisticated, still lag behind the latest French and US capabilities on platforms such as the Rafale, EA-18G and F-22. This is an area where operators suggested that further priority investment could yield significant increases in survivability, especially against ground-based air defences.
However, given the highly classified nature of these capabilities, further details of these and possible upgrades are beyond the scope of this study.

… before it degenerated with the superiority of the Rafale 😀

also and ESM sensor alone cannot lock a moving air target ( cant measures range, speed and aspects angle)

Several aircrafts in a patrol + L16 + Data fusion = a firing solution with ESM tracks

The fusion of SPECTRA and RBE2.
Both working as radar or/and ECM.
The sheme is Spectra antenas and RBE2 antena to be fused in the same GaN based system.

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2 Meteor, 4 Mica, 6 AASM, 3 tanks (2000l each)

Mind you, Fran�ois hollande our traitor in chief had a meeting a short while ago with the leader of Syria’s islamist party or whatever to supply some weapons to the insurgency. I guess we wouldn’t need to export so much Rafales if we stopped financing aggression wars & terrorsits in Syria or Libya and spent the money on actually buying the plane.

Nic

I’m not used to comment on other posters comments but you’ll see: I’ll make the connexion with Dassault after…

This “civil war” rethoric is boring. “traitor in chief”, “bow to his master”, etc…
You don’t have to use this rethoric even though its your posts and I won’t prentend to lecture you about “how to think well”
Just to remind you that the “traitor” became traitor “in chief” because a righlist female politician called to vote against the more little previous “traitor”. Who is the traitor now?
Nevertheless the “little traitor” lost with only 125000 ballot gap in spite the 18% made by the real traitor of this story at the 1st round.

There was a rightlist man, well in the right end of the political spectrum called Marcel Dassault.
However this man sat around the table with the socialists of 1981, at a time communists were in government and some believed Warsaw pact was about to parrade on the Champs Elysée. And he gave 46% of his company to the state, got the Rafale lauched by the “socialo-communist” of this time and he finally got the show to go on with the Rafale as it is today.
He was still hating the socialism note well,… about as much as his son Serge…

But that’s a generation who came to hate even more the “politic of the worst” (“politique du pire”)
They came to become disgusted with those rightlist who hatred so much the communists before the war that they came to support the nazis. Still describing themselve as “patriots” of course.
They vomited on those communists who’ve throwed hands of screw and nuts in the gearbox of the B1Bis tanks because they were against the “capitalist war”

Marcel was as much rightlist before the war, but he finished in concentration camps as you know and his brother died in the resistance. And he met there people he respected deeply. Rightlists, convinced catholics (he converted to catholicism) but also communists.
He respected some of them during all his life while becoming a deputy well stunck on the right.

You lack culture my friend. I suggest you: “L’étrange défaite” from Marc Bloch (another Bloch…).

And remember: if there is a “traitor”, someone who made the “politic of the worst”, it’s a rightlist political b!tch who pretend to be a patriot.
Well… just to say that the “politic of the worst” is indeed the worst and Le Drian and even Holand are how they are, they are no “traitors” and only France is above all this commedy.

(Sorry, back to Dassault and all)

Of course the reduced order is a bad news for the AdA (26 only until 2019)
But there are not only bad news concerning the Rafale in this programming law.
I tell this as someone who is not really supportive of this government.

There is also a interesting 1 b€ funding for:

– about 300 m€ for the Rafale F3R
– about 700 m€ for the UCAV based on the Neuron

the reduced purchase target as well as the R&D funding is the result of a negociation between Dassault and the state. That fact alone is already a good new.

Concerning the F3R:
– let’s remind that the previous Rafale roadmap was 400 m€. So the 300 m€ for the F3R is about the same scale of order.
The previous Rafale roadmap was:
* AESA,
* M88 ECO demonstrator (which drove to the M88-4E and the Pack CGP for Global Possession Cost and the potential for a 9t M88)
* Meteor integration,
* DDM NG

For the F3R we expect what is more and more advertized by the DGA i-e:
* GaN components,
* comformal antenas,
* improved L16 with why not: satelite link,
* discret shoot on target using collaborative passive sensors (and my secret personal unofficial gess: shoot on sattelite tracks based on LOLA DGA demonstrator)

We don’t know yet but we’ll hear in due time.

Concening the UCAV where there is a “big” 700 m€ budget:

* let’s not forget that there is a big focus from the DGA for the UCAV as a collaborative tool with the Rafale (the stealth bomb bay of the Rafale in other words…). This focus is not new and the 700 m€ budget is as much as the budget of the roadmap + the F3R budget combined. Not the scale of US projects for instance but not bad and a good new for the optimistic ones.

So to continue on the optimistic vein: they delayed some purchase in order to buy other priority stuff such as the A400M, A330MRTT and drones.
They keep slot for potential export order,
They do it with compensation to Dassault to keep busy its R&D staff with interesting projects for our forces as well as for our partner’s forces since it’s the garanty of a alive program with continued improvments.

Basically, Dassault which is yet to sign its first export order (as everybody say every time there is an article with the word “Rafale” in it) is making problems and want to be unpleasant to the Indians.

Is it realistic that?

It is not. Especially when you know Dassault and their mentality. Dassault is still a ingeneers focused culture.
If they rise points it’s most probably because there is a technical problem to archive their engagement to the Indians. And technical problem are like gravity law: they are there as long as it’s not solved whatever your will or how much you bend flat to indian decision maker.

The best is everybody of good fairth is probably to work on the technical problem concerning responsability – and ability – of HAL to set up the production line with a blank check.