Well, that Gripen equiped with the new radar, the new MAWS, the new Satcom, the new internal tanks, the new pylons, etc, that is flying from 27 of last month must be a flying power point…
Yeah and the F35 is flying since 2006. Everybody know that in this business you need 20% of time to make 80% of the job and 80% of the time to solve (or not) the remaining 20% which are mostly ingrat ****s.
Either way it’s a Gripen C MLU in which case it”d be already outdated when the Brazilian will be able to build it,
either way it’s a brand new design of a brand new plane in which case where are the funds? The home base to support years after years the whole system?
But SAAB tend to take the characteristic of the C when it suits them (low risks, low costs, light weight, easy to maintain, simple, proven) and the PPT characteristics of the NG for all the rest.
Gripen is the test aircraft for Meteor. So far, AFAIK, it’s the only aircraft with Meteor integrated. It has IRIS-T integrated. Sweden is a development partner in both those missiles. So . . . American missiles? If you want – or others, if you prefer.
No the Gripen hasn’t Meteor. No more than the Rafale or anybody, and the EF 2000 hasn’t Storm Shadow either in spite we see pictures of it since 2002 (they used to be very good at the power point battle too).
So Rafale says they don’t have the Meteor because they don’t, other don’t bother of such detail,
… so the funny thing is that most people think the Gripen and the EF will be the only ones to have it :rolleyes:
Now here it is:
here is the order (200 pieces in 2010):
Au niveau des armements mis en oeuvres par les avions, le budget prévoit la commande, pour l’ensemble des forces, de 168 armements air-sol modulaires (AASM) et 200 missiles air-air d’interception à domaine élargi Météor (MIDE).
http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=111374
and here are the funds to help its integration in cooperation: The UAE
BTW: Meteor seeker is derivated from Mica’s (same as Aster 30’s) and Iris-T seeker is AIM-9X’s. Again, SAAB is gona transfert what?
I can see a consern. It seems that it doesn’t matter what the FAB or the Brazilian industry says. The decision will be made from a political and strategical point of view.
Yes it is political.
– Because like France, Brazil has a rigorous perception of its national independance. And France+Bresil will represent a very good business model for our common long term independance (the interior market of each of them alone is too small to be sustainable)
– from the Rafale F3+ base, we’ll develop togather future versions of the Rafale as well as our next generations of combat aircrafts without the need to re-invent the wheel,
– because combat aircrafts (as well as missiles) are strategical political asset for a nation while Embraer want mostly to make business and the FAB mostly to have as many luxury Ferraris for its pilots as possible,
– because France and Brazil have a common border. We are neighbour. We develop civilian aircrafts with our european neighbours, we’ll develop military aircraft with our brazilian neigbours (Europ has been a disapointment on that field)
– by the way, Embraer + Dassault can make a bloodbath on the C-130 segment with the KC-390
So yes: it’s political. More than that: it’s strategical!
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